Mataya wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020
MrFigg wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020
Got a question...have I totally misunderstood these REs? Up until now I've thought they were modular...like in Eurorack. I just downloaded a couple of them now after reading this thread and I'm starting to wonder if they are actually all synths in their own right. Are they?
Yes they are. Cleverly designed so you end up with all kinds of different and complex waveforms that are easily modulated which leads to more animated complex waveforms.
I'm still trying to learn more about each "synth", but it seems like a lot is going on under the hood and I just can't reproduce it with usual snyths I have. That's why I think they are unique and useful for me.
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they are unique, and i have of course an arsenal of substractive synths, but also other synthesis, and soft modulars, with a lot of modules, also with a lot with a unique character
(buchla, zeroscillator to mention some, there are more), so substractive isn't my main way of working, in the beginning yes.
but even if i have several soft modular ecosystems, with a lot of "stuff", these are quite special. noise engineering, i already mentioned it, is also in the modular world, the hardware world, more of the experimental module makers.
it are full synths, VCO/VCE(is that a real term...)/VCA, or full, SB 2 have a LPG, that is a Filter, so SB 2 is VCO/ENV/VCA/VCF........ still in the substractive domain...
but the range of SB 1 and SB 2 "modules" is very wide, the range of sound you can produce. ENV are very important, sometimes people forget how important ENVelopes are.
VCO and VCF mainly get the attention, but i good ENVelope generator, like in the noise engineering modules, show what it can do with the sound, how it influence the source of the sound, how it sculpts it. wavefolding, LPG. it is bit or more west coast orientated (although west - east coast, yes buchla - moog, there are certainly differences. one more experimental, buchla, moog more straightforward (?), o well with moog modules, you can get also very experimental like, fill in.... buchla starts already experimental, like noise engineering, moog can be very experimental, but the other way around? west-east coast, it isn't that important anymore, but historically interesting, california and new york in the same time...)
noise engineering that they ported there stuff to reason is quite surprising, and not a bad thing at all, audio rate is not possible, i think, but it seems that noise engineering isn't designed for audio rate (which is indeed again a west coast thing, the difference made between audio and CV), i can be wrong. i know my stuff, but my head! isn't clear as a sunny day, every day..
but audio rate and noise engineering.... wow... perhaps too much, that is maybe the key difference still, althoug you have hybrid west-east modules... buchla still makes a difference between audio output/input and CV. you can override it, in software me thinks. i know this stuff, i work with it! o well...
bottom line: noise engineering is (and there are other modules, more utilities...) expands the universe of reason in a very big way.
EDIT: before i submit, i see a new reaction, yes they have ENV out. which is nice, because the ENV generator, or voltage controlled envelope, is something that behaves differently than standard envelopes.