Anyone developing a mixer?

[selig]

It's just what it's called in Cakewalk. It's a stereo on / off toggle button, so off makes it mono.

The same thing is accomplished in Reason with the width knob in the SSL. The only thing is that the resulting audio becomes a dual mono signal, not a single mono signal.

Oh, a mono button, got it. I’ve never missed this on the line mixer or 14:2 mixer, but it’s easy enough to add (with the knowledge you’ll give up space for a different function, so there’s a possible trade off there).

Maybe a list of ‘must have’ features should be started here to better judge which features are actually needed, especially when you have to limit your choices or make tradeoffs (the time your “must haves” often turn into “nice to have”)

[DJMaytag]

Oh, a mono button, got it. I’ve never missed this on the line mixer or 14:2 mixer, but it’s easy enough to add (with the knowledge you’ll give up space for a different function, so there’s a possible trade off there).

TBH, I don’t care about a mono button. If I really want a mono signal, I’ll unplug one channel from the device, mixer, etc.

[selig]

Maybe I misunderstood the CV part - do you want a way to run CV through a VCA (Selig Gain does this), or do you want a to CONTROL a VCA with CV?

I want to control a CV with another CV.

Selig Gain does this, but as others have pointed out it’s overkill for that (even though I use it for that all the time).
I had long ago assumed RS would add CV tools such as a VCA and simple mixer for CV, so never thought much more about it. I’m happy to draw up a panel if someone else can code it (would be a great first project for someone interested in developing REs).

[DJMaytag]

Selig Gain does this, but as others have pointed out it’s overkill for that (even though I use it for that all the time).
I had long ago assumed RS would add CV tools such as a VCA and simple mixer for CV, so never thought much more about it. I’m happy to draw up a panel if someone else can code it (would be a great first project for someone interested in developing REs).

I just bought Selig Gain (and added Leveller to my RTO plan). I haven't tried it yet, but if that can scale a CV by another CV, then that should suffice. I wouldn't turn down someone making a simpler VCA, like a RE version of the Doepfer A-132-3 (https://doepfer.de/a1323.htm) or a Frequency Central "MORE VCA'S" (https://frequencycentral.co.uk/product/more-vcas/). Those VCA's are DC-coupled, so they can accept audio as well as CV. I bet it wouldn't be hard to squeeze 3 or 4 VCA's into a 1U RE.

[selig]

My “wanna haves” for a smaller mixer:

•8-12 inputs w/mute and solo per channel
•2-4 sends (at least one with option for pre fader)
•Simple EQ, at least 2 band, maybe 3 (old school Mackie style) with bypass
•Simple filter, at least HP but LP could be cool too (combined with the EQ could save some space by sharing shelf/filter controls as my earlier mockups show)
•Panning - I’d love a panner (not a balance control like the SSL in Reason)
•CV - the tricky part, definitely level/pan, maybe also sends and mid EQ and/or LP sweep
•Master- returns for sends (w/mute?), master fader (no need for inserts IMO)

Bonus for your consideration:
•Take the Mackie Mute idea where muting a channel sends it to alternate (3/4) outputs, making it a quick switcher device (maybe add CV for channel mute?).
•Peak hold numeric meter on the master outputs (in addition to level meters), always handy.
•CV inputs per channel, master CV out (maybe sends too?), running in parallel with audio mixer (no conversion of CV to audio etc) to allow CV “VCA”, Mixing, inversion, matrixing, etc.

Updated (rough) Mockup:

Screen Shot 2023-08-04 at 4.46.17 PM.png

[_andreypetr_]

I want to control a CV with another CV.

Selig Gain does this, but as others have pointed out it’s overkill for that (even though I use it for that all the time).
I had long ago assumed RS would add CV tools such as a VCA and simple mixer for CV, so never thought much more about it. I’m happy to draw up a panel if someone else can code it (would be a great first project for someone interested in developing REs).

Oh, I don't know anything about developer politics, but you might have a great collaboration with Murf.

[Murf]

My “wanna haves” for a smaller mixer:

•8-12 inputs w/mute and solo per channel
•2-4 sends (at least one with option for pre fader)
•Simple EQ, at least 2 band, maybe 3 (old school Mackie style) with bypass
•Simple filter, at least HP but LP could be cool too (combined with the EQ could save some space by sharing shelf/filter controls as my earlier mockups show)
•Panning - I’d love a panner (not a balance control like the SSL in Reason)
•CV - the tricky part, definitely level/pan, maybe also sends and mid EQ and/or LP sweep
•Master- returns for sends (w/mute?), master fader (no need for inserts IMO)

Bonus for your consideration:
•Take the Mackie Mute idea where muting a channel sends it to alternate (3/4) outputs, making it a quick switcher device (maybe add CV for channel mute?).
•Peak hold numeric meter on the master outputs (in addition to level meters), always handy.
•CV inputs per channel, master CV out (maybe sends too?), running in parallel with audio mixer (no conversion of CV to audio etc) to allow CV “VCA”, Mixing, inversion, matrixing, etc.

Updated (rough) Mockup:
Screen Shot 2023-08-04 at 4.46.17 PM.png

The back panel is so dense! This is where the major effort needs to be concentrated I think.
I will try and incorporate as many of these ideas as I can.
Murf.

[Arpeg]

My “wanna haves” for a smaller mixer:

•8-12 inputs w/mute and solo per channel
•2-4 sends (at least one with option for pre fader)
•Simple EQ, at least 2 band, maybe 3 (old school Mackie style) with bypass
•Simple filter, at least HP but LP could be cool too (combined with the EQ could save some space by sharing shelf/filter controls as my earlier mockups show)
•Panning - I’d love a panner (not a balance control like the SSL in Reason)
•CV - the tricky part, definitely level/pan, maybe also sends and mid EQ and/or LP sweep
•Master- returns for sends (w/mute?), master fader (no need for inserts IMO)

Bonus for your consideration:
•Take the Mackie Mute idea where muting a channel sends it to alternate (3/4) outputs, making it a quick switcher device (maybe add CV for channel mute?).
•Peak hold numeric meter on the master outputs (in addition to level meters), always handy.
•CV inputs per channel, master CV out (maybe sends too?), running in parallel with audio mixer (no conversion of CV to audio etc) to allow CV “VCA”, Mixing, inversion, matrixing, etc.

Updated (rough) Mockup:
Screen Shot 2023-08-04 at 4.46.17 PM.png

Thank you Selig for adding all that and sorting out CV use. A lot to think about so a fantastic mock up and great work

[Arpeg]

My “wanna haves” for a smaller mixer:

•8-12 inputs w/mute and solo per channel
•2-4 sends (at least one with option for pre fader)
•Simple EQ, at least 2 band, maybe 3 (old school Mackie style) with bypass
•Simple filter, at least HP but LP could be cool too (combined with the EQ could save some space by sharing shelf/filter controls as my earlier mockups show)
•Panning - I’d love a panner (not a balance control like the SSL in Reason)
•CV - the tricky part, definitely level/pan, maybe also sends and mid EQ and/or LP sweep
•Master- returns for sends (w/mute?), master fader (no need for inserts IMO)

Bonus for your consideration:
•Take the Mackie Mute idea where muting a channel sends it to alternate (3/4) outputs, making it a quick switcher device (maybe add CV for channel mute?).
•Peak hold numeric meter on the master outputs (in addition to level meters), always handy.
•CV inputs per channel, master CV out (maybe sends too?), running in parallel with audio mixer (no conversion of CV to audio etc) to allow CV “VCA”, Mixing, inversion, matrixing, etc.

Updated (rough) Mockup:
Screen Shot 2023-08-04 at 4.46.17 PM.png

The back panel is so dense! This is where the major effort needs to be concentrated I think.
I will try and incorporate as many of these ideas as I can.
Murf.

In Murf We Trust