Any ideas or requests for a new RE?

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Post 26 May 2020

Boombastix wrote:
26 May 2020
challism wrote:
26 May 2020
I'd love to see a good emulation of the uni-vibe effects pedal like Jimi Hendrix used. There are some nice tries but most of them miss the mark, I think. I'm unaware of any that actually came close.
Have you tried Audiority Tube Modulator or Amplitube's Univibe?
No I haven't. I'll give them a try. Thanks. It would be nice to have one as an RE.


@Murf, what about a physical modeling synth like Resonans, but with more physical models? There are only 3 in Resonans. I'm not sure if Robotic Bean are finished adding more models to Resonans or not, but we could use a physical modeling synth with more models. Seems to be an overlooked niche.
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Post 27 May 2020

challism wrote:
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@Murf, what about a physical modeling synth like Resonans, but with more physical models? There are only 3 in Resonans. I'm not sure if Robotic Bean are finished adding more models to Resonans or not, but we could use a physical modeling synth with more models. Seems to be an overlooked niche.
Once i have mastered Circuit Modelling I will have a try at physical :)

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Post 27 May 2020

Well, there is still no shadow hills mastering compressor in RE format :D

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Post 27 May 2020

Casio FZ-1 series is not well known, but was an important instrument in eighties Hip-hop and Dance.

Had a one of a kind analogue filter chip from Mitsubishi. Can distort in a very nice way.
It has its own synth waveforms, did sampling and additive.
Envelopes are like the CZ - lots of stages and you can do a series of loops.

First instrument with a LCD.
You can even draw your own waveforms. Must have been pretty space age at the time.

First implementation of a 5 inch floppy drive (its Achilles heel. Drive bands wear out and the unit is not replaceable)
Was the poor mans Fairlight in the day.

Sounds pretty damn good too.

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Post 27 May 2020

robotgard wrote:
26 May 2020
Neo wrote:
26 May 2020
Advanced Step Sequencer
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/2 ... -sequencer
has already. even more advanced.
Cheers robotgard
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Murf
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Post 31 May 2020

Hi All,
After many great suggestions and a lot of research I have come to the stark realisation that the actual modelling of electrical components with DSP beyond simple components like resistors, capacitors, and inductors is way beyond the scope of a one man hobby shop like myself. After hearing that Arturia have their own modelling engine specifically developed for this reason to be able to do accurate models of the old Moogs and other synths of yesteryear I have decided that for the time being at least, this sort of RE is beyond the resources I have to put into it.

That said, I am still happy to delve into hard core digital DSP algorithms to make a new RE, and I have come up with an idea that I want to float to make sure that firstly it would be welcome, and secondly that no one else has already done it.

I want to make a distortion effect RE that allows you to select from a number of characteristic curves that the input will be passed through, (for example the classic f(x) = 2/pi * atan(x)) and also maybe even a "draw your own curve" concept as well.I would like to take advantage of the ability to select different panels within the RE (similar to the Thor oscillator modules panels etc) to give it the flexibility of differing modular stages (filters, chorus, delay, reverb as well maybe?), so it could end up being a reasonably complex distortion RE.

Would anyone be interested in this? If so I will start mocking up a UI and post it here to get an idea on what direction people would like this thing to go.
Murf

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Post 31 May 2020

Forgotton Waveshaper, Trash2 and a few others directly came into my mind. Except i missed something, we are pretty saturated :-)
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Post 31 May 2020

Loque wrote:
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Forgotton Waveshaper, Trash2 and a few others directly came into my mind. Except i missed something, we are pretty saturated :-)
So hard to have an original idea :(
I see Trash2 is a VST, and I don't much like the look of Forgotten Waveshaper 2, I think there is some scope for something different here.
Murf

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Zac
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Post 31 May 2020

The thing I want most is something like this
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... le-drywet/
or this developed further to account for the latency of each inserted device and report the required compensation in a dynamic way.

I really want a way to have something like this on a buss that I can switch on and off at certain times in a song to add fx that are compensated for both when punched in and out.

Just out of interest I bought Waveshaper 2 yesterday and it's great.

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Post 31 May 2020

Murf wrote:
31 May 2020
Hi All,
After many great suggestions and a lot of research I have come to the stark realisation that the actual modelling of electrical components with DSP beyond simple components like resistors, capacitors, and inductors is way beyond the scope of a one man hobby shop like myself. After hearing that Arturia have their own modelling engine specifically developed for this reason to be able to do accurate models of the old Moogs and other synths of yesteryear I have decided that for the time being at least, this sort of RE is beyond the resources I have to put into it.
Despite what you read in the sales blurb I don't think anyone is actually modelling every component in anything but the simplest circuit. They model the functional blocks and add the "character" of that block and of the key components within that block: diode noise, hum, non-linearities, oscillator drift etc. The trick is to model enough of the imperfections to make it sound like the original without using up too much precious CPU power.

It's true that there is nothing new under the sun when it comes to VST and RE effects but that should not stop you trying! People are still buying yet another reverb and yet another distortion. So take your distortion idea and make something and see where it ends up. You can gain plaudits from a portion of the ReasonTalk crowd just by adding a million CV inputs and outputs to something.

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Post 31 May 2020

DaveyG wrote:
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You can gain plaudits from a portion of the ReasonTalk crowd just by adding a million CV inputs and outputs to something.
Haha so true....

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Post 31 May 2020

I think I will stop suggesting to myself in my own forum request thread and just start coding!
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Post 31 May 2020

Anything from Infected Mushroom's arsenal ! :P

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Post 31 May 2020

I would like a simple Note-corrector. To correct single notes after the arpeggiator and sequencer.
The store has ivy https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack-extension/ivy/. But I notice that sometimes it does not work correctly.

I will show an example:
Propulsion controls the Korde sequencer. Korde plays two sequencers - the main part of the piano and the bass of the same piano. I need to adjust the bass 3 times.
That is, it must be simple device (player) 8 presets which can be switched on by CV Propulsion or other devices.


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Post 31 May 2020

mjxl wrote:
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While those stuff can be achieved with other devices, i like how easy it is. The devices create an effect on its own based on other effects. Not a revolution, but cool stuff. Just heavy overpriced.

But in general i like the idea of creating ready-to-use-fx-chains with some tweaks, especially if they are easy and still versitile and efficient in time and CPU consumption. I have some pretty cool devices, but it requires a lot of trial and error to get something cool that blows me away. Pitch and frequency shifting are highly underrated fx IMO. Just get me some kind of additional tuned output and i am sold. Same for resonating, RM and FM outputs...
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Post 31 May 2020

I'd still like to see a semi-modular/modular synth with the knobs mirrored on the back side using the ABL3 trick.

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Post 31 May 2020

Maybe some kind of auto-riser RE like that "Endless Smile" VST:



That could fill a hole in the RE market at least.

Edit: Some inspiration how it could be done:
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Loque
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Post 31 May 2020

Just realized that a lot of sounds i like came from a Roland V-Synth...it has some features i did not have seen in many VSTs. I just had a bought a synth which is able to FM 2 samples or FM with a VCO, but lacks good formant shifting/filters or a damn vocoder...Nevertheless got to experiment withi it...But a really good sounding formant filter with a bit more control and wide feature range would be awsome. I have a few, but still not satisfied and Thors formant filter sound okayish......
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Post 31 May 2020

Here are two ideas:
Roland VariPhrase vp-9000.
Yamaha FS1R

Sure, pretty high level. But considering how many free VSTs there are, and great paid instruments covering most bases, I think it has to stand out a little a provide something less common/available, but usable.
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Post 31 May 2020

Boombastix wrote:
31 May 2020
Here are two ideas:
Roland VariPhrase vp-9000.
Yamaha FS1R

Sure, pretty high level. But considering how many free VSTs there are, and great paid instruments covering most bases, I think it has to stand out a little a provide something less common/available, but usable.
Didnt knew theese devices and just checked them out. You have my attention now...Yea, something special would be really cool. Please not the 10000th delay, eq, distortion, reverb thing. Add something to it...create something new or unique...And remember: I may not use it for thing you invented to use for (TB-303 is one of the best examples for that IMO).
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Post 31 May 2020

joeyluck wrote:
31 May 2020
I'd still like to see a semi-modular/modular synth with the knobs mirrored on the back side using the ABL3 trick.
I did this with my MODRACK series with the CV trims, I was surprised Reason even approved it.
I did get some strange feedback from people about it.
It was the least I could do since I was not going to code a Complex-1 style front panel patching system :)
Murf.

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Post 31 May 2020

Murf wrote:
31 May 2020
joeyluck wrote:
31 May 2020
I'd still like to see a semi-modular/modular synth with the knobs mirrored on the back side using the ABL3 trick.
I did this with my MODRACK series with the CV trims, I was surprised Reason even approved it.
I did get some strange feedback from people about it.
It was the least I could do since I was not going to code a Complex-1 style front panel patching system :)
Murf.
Yes like that, but the opposite :) Imagine a modular synth where you can play with cables and all the knobs from the back panel. The back panel could mirror the front and not look like a back panel.

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Post 31 May 2020

I want Singstar® in RE form.
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Post 31 May 2020

I would love to have a broken flanger RE. I've read about how turning the feedback knob all the way up on a Boss BF flanger pedal with too much force can cause more feedback than the factory setting. One of my favorite guitar players, Robin Guthrie, uses this to great effect. He wrote this about the song A Kissed Out Red Floatboat on the Cocteau Twins' Blue Bell Knoll album.

"The sweep sound which crops up now and again is my broken (and I will never get it fixed) Boss BF-2 Flanger (broken as it goes into a very destructive oscillation if you wind the feedback up all the way - I have a couple of others which don't)."

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Post 01 Jun 2020

I think someone might have mentioned Mutable Instruments ports previously, but I think Mutable’s Plaits module (Macro Oscillator 2 in VCV Rack) would be a great candidate.

Actually, what could be really interesting is a full synth (polyphonic?) built out of Plaits and an envelope generator like Tides (or even just a basic EG). I also see a design opportunity here to make the lovely, but admittedly obscure Plaits panel UI into something a little easier for newcomers.
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