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Post 04 Feb 2020

zoidkirb wrote:
03 Feb 2020
I don't think RS will give out a free vst wrapper that can handle more than 1 RE.

I'm not saying shouldn't.

But I think they will consider the multitudes of users sitting on version 10 or below who might jump at the chance to take previously purchased RE's into their new DAW of choice without paying another cent.

A single wrapper while possibly attracting new users, would also be a nice gesture from RS to the old school Reason users while leaving open the tempting paid upgrade to the full RRP.
Or you already work in another DAW even though you have R10, but stopped buying new REs because you cannot use them in the other DAW. The RRP can change that and favor RE purchases over VST.
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Post 04 Feb 2020

I love how this thread no longer has anything to do with the original subject!

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Post 04 Feb 2020

buddard wrote:
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I love how this thread no longer has anything to do with the original subject!
No Direct Association.
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MrFigg wrote:
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buddard wrote:
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I love how this thread no longer has anything to do with the original subject!
No Direct Association.
No Due Attention.
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orthodox wrote:
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MrFigg wrote:
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No Direct Association.
No Due Attention.
No dogs allowed.
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Post 04 Feb 2020

buddard wrote:
04 Feb 2020
I love how this thread no longer has anything to do with the original subject!
Yeah, would love to have a Dev forum to discuss the SDK.

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Post 04 Feb 2020

Andy wrote:
03 Feb 2020
fieldframe wrote:
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I would argue the expectations are different between developers of CV utilities and synths/effects. There are already synth and effect Rack Extensions that were ported from (or to) VST, and so it's not a stretch to imagine those types of REs working by themselves in another host. CV, on the other hand, is more or less exclusive to Reason in the DAW market. There are no CV utility VST ports, so no one would expect them to work alone in another DAW.

Players are a special case, as there are MIDI VSTs, and Reason Studios just needs to add MIDI-out support to the Reason Rack Plugin.

It's not about the CV utility working by themselves it's about them working with the instrument in its RE state in the wrapper.

Again, look at it this way. Customer A buys a synth he/she has one instance of it in a wrapper. Customer A buys an FX but also here comes to the shop a cool player or utility. Customer A wants to use that player with the synth they bought . You mean to tell me that this customer should now forked out more money just to have those options? Worst developers of players etc only hope of reaching this customer is if they buy a version of Reason when other devs are not required to do this? Why should various devs be treated differently when they are all developing for the same platform?

And Players would not work either with this one device wrapper idea. Remember you can stack players on top of each other for creative possibilities.

I find it unacceptable we talk about supporting devs but have no problem overlooking those who may have a product that does not fit this one device wrapper idea.
Given they implement Midi Out then the player should work in a one RE Wrapper aswell, so it is level playing field for Devs.

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Post 04 Feb 2020

MrFigg wrote:
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orthodox wrote:
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No Due Attention.
No dogs allowed.
Nostradamus Doth Agree

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Enlightenspeed wrote:
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No dogs allowed.
Nostradamus Doth Agree
Nothing to Discuss Anymore
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orthodox wrote:
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Nostradamus Doth Agree
Nothing to Discuss Anymore
Nope. Disagree Altogether.
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MrFigg wrote:
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orthodox wrote:
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Nothing to Discuss Anymore
Nope. Disagree Altogether.
New Development Anyone?
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Post 04 Feb 2020

Next DAW: Ableton
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orthodox wrote:
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MrFigg wrote:
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Nope. Disagree Altogether.
New Development Anyone?
Nicely Diverted. Again
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MrFigg wrote:
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New Development Anyone?
Nicely Diverted. Again
Noticeably Dubious Assessment.
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orthodox wrote:
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Nicely Diverted. Again
Noticeably Dubious Assessment.
Not Donkey. Ass?
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MrFigg wrote:
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Noticeably Dubious Assessment.
Not Donkey. Ass?
Never Denying the Apparent.
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orthodox wrote:
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MrFigg wrote:
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Not Donkey. Ass?
Never Denying the Apparent.
Notable. Determined Attitude.
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MrFigg wrote:
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orthodox wrote:
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Never Denying the Apparent.
Notable. Determined Attitude.
Not Dominantly, Actually.
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orthodox wrote:
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Not Dominantly, Actually.
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Not Dominantly, Actually.
Needless Definition Argument :).
Nasty Deviation Ahead!
No Derogatory Assaults.
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orthodox wrote:
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Needless Definition Argument :).
Nasty Deviation Ahead!
No Derogatory Assaults.
Needlessly Debating Anacronyms.
Now Depleted Archive. Nearing Day After.
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Necessarily Deliberating Avoidance.
Next?...Drop Acid.
Nice Day. Adieu!!!
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MrFigg wrote:
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orthodox wrote:
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Nasty Deviation Ahead!
No Derogatory Assaults.
Needlessly Debating Anacronyms.
Now Depleted Archive. Nearing Day After.
Not Disputing. Adios.
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Post 04 Feb 2020

diminished wrote:
04 Feb 2020
Next DAW: Ableton LIVE
Unrelated (but not really, since this thread has totally gone off topic :lol: :lol: ) but I've got this weird pet peeve when folks refer to "Live" (the DAW) as "Ableton" (the company that made it). This isn't a unique phenomena here - users new and old all over YouTube, KVR, Gearslutz, etc time and time again, frequently refer to the DAW Live as "Ableton". It's so weird.

I guess Propellerhead changing their name to "Reason Studios" wasn't a bad move after all. ;)
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Post 04 Feb 2020

EnochLight wrote:
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diminished wrote:
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Next DAW: Ableton LIVE
Unrelated (but not really, since this thread has totally gone off topic :lol: :lol: ) but I've got this weird pet peeve when folks refer to "Live" (the DAW) as "Ableton" (the company that made it). This isn't a unique phenomena here - users new and old all over YouTube, KVR, Gearslutz, etc time and time again, frequently refer to the DAW Live as "Ableton". It's so weird.

I guess Propellerhead changing their name to "Reason Studios" wasn't a bad move after all. ;)
Does anybody call it Live? It's not even a noun. Besides, how would you google anything related to Live? Now we're going to have the same problem with Reason Studios.
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