selig wrote: ↑05 Jan 2020
eXode wrote: ↑05 Jan 2020
I suggested this very thing in another "forum", that props should have released a free RE Player Rack with Reason 11, or bundled when someone purchase a RE. It could be compared, in some ways, to the free Reaktor player which is needed for plugins like NI Razor or Monark.
And you know I too supported this idea, but others have mentioned possible workarounds by creating new accounts every 30 days. Not being into that approach myself I haven't tested it to see how much work is involved, but it may be one reason it was not considered in the first place.
From my perspective as a developer, it would allow folks to use my plugins in any DAW without me porting to VST/AU etc. Some suggested $99 (for Reason Intro) was not much to pay for the privilege of using my plugins, but I totally disagree, as I don't feel my products should "hide" behind a paywall of any sort other than the initial cost, which should be the same for every user IMO. I guess we'll have to wait and see, but this is another case of me "not holding my breath"!
Yeah dat me lol. But I'm not against a free, empty rack, I just think $99 is very reasonable.
I have an ongoing frustration with Kontakt. I only use the free Kontakt Player and own several commercial libraries that run inside the Player version. In those instances, the developers have paid extra; $1000 encoding fee and purchasing serial licenses in bulk to then sell. I think it costs a dev something like $2500 if they want to release a free product for Kontakt Player... All that to make it available to customers like me to use in Kontakt Player.
Or I as a customer can buy Kontakt full version for the privilege of using commercial libraries that are not compatible with Kontakt Player (because the dev doesn't want to pay the fee). Kontakt is $399, or for someone like me who owns a few libraries, it is $249. And it comes with pretty much nothing...the content is meager and dated. You get the ability to create and edit libraries, if that's what you want to do. But as a simple customer of libraries, it's just an upfront cost to use libraries.
So my only point in the end is not one against a free empty Rack, because I would love people to make the same arguments to NI, because the whole Kontakt scheme is unattractive. But I'm sure it's great for their wallets. But my point is to not get discouraged suggesting Reason Intro for $99 as a selling point. In the grand scheme of things, compared to other software, you get so much more with Reason Intro's included devices; which compliment third party REs and the use of routing.
As a dev you don't have to pay a huge $1000 fee for customers to be able use your products in the rack, you don't have to pay to purchase licenses up front to then sell, and suggesting Reason Intro for $99 is ok. Someone telling me I need to buy Kontakt full for 4x as much, which comes with mostly nothing, just to use their products—that's lame. This is not. And I think if you go in with a more positive attitude towards the idea of Reason Intro for $99 (shoot the Europa VST had cost more by itself...and now a customer can use it in the Rack Plugin when purchasing Intro, and that's just scratching the surface with what Intro customers get) it will be an easier sale to make, I think.
But again, not against the idea of a free, empty rack. I just don't think $99 for Intro is a tough sale, unless you make it one. And I'd much rather my friends have the included devices for a really great price.