Best Ring Mod in Reason?

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Pajor Hill
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31 Jan 2018

I'm looking for a Ring Mod that can reproduce the ring of the SP1200 when the 1/4 jacks are inputted half way.

I want to be able to have that artifact sound

From what i know Only the MPC Live and X currently have this function.

I'd like to recreate it
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dvdrtldg
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31 Jan 2018

Not familiar with the particular sound you're describing, but if you're not confining yourself to REs and willing to go down the VST path, MeldaProductions have an excellent freebie https://www.meldaproduction.com/MRingModulator

It's very tweakable and versatile, I love it. Much more functional than anything in the RE market except maybe Strontium 90, which is also cool - ring mod and much more besides - but has a weird bug that means you have to route it manually. A bit of a hassle but worth the effort imo, it's a great device https://shop.propellerheads.se/rack-ext ... ontium-90/

The Synapse RM-1 ring mod delivers a nice thick sound, but is maybe a bit basic and a little on the pricey side for what you get https://shop.propellerheads.se/rack-ext ... modulator/


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ljekio
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01 Feb 2018

p/s Dont forget about RM in stock devices - Kong, Malstrom and Screamer.

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Loque
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01 Feb 2018

ljekio wrote:
01 Feb 2018
p/s Dont forget about RM in stock devices - Kong, Malstrom and Screamer.
Malstroem?
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ljekio
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01 Feb 2018

Do you find the audible principal difference between RM in Kong and AM filter mode in Malstrom?

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01 Feb 2018

the best
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https://shop.propellerheads.se/rack-ext ... -ring-mod/

the free
https://shop.propellerheads.se/rack-ext ... ion-chain/

also you can recreate one with an LFo, but I would go with the kilohearts

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Marco Raaphorst
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01 Feb 2018

so much to choose from:
Pulveriser
Kong
Malstrom
Scream

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dioxide
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01 Feb 2018

What you're looking for is something that emulates Ring Mode not Ring Mod(ulation). There's a video on YouTube demoing the feature and it disables the SP1200's filter so you can hear all the digital noise.

You need to be looking at bitcrushers. Having demoed a few I'd recommend the D16 one.


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Vince-Noir-99
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02 Feb 2018

+1 for Pulveriser. Not only the LFO freq goes really high, but you can modulate with external audio signals as well.

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02 Feb 2018

dioxide wrote:
01 Feb 2018
What you're looking for is something that emulates Ring Mode not Ring Mod(ulation). There's a video on YouTube demoing the feature and it disables the SP1200's filter so you can hear all the digital noise.

You need to be looking at bitcrushers. Having demoed a few I'd recommend the D16 one.
I happen to really like ReSampler as well.

But what you're looking for is 12-bit, 26khz or below (i'm guessing its the low-fi mode you're after)

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bsp
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02 Feb 2018

The best ring mod for Reason is Synapse's RM-1. It actually sounds similar to a Moog MF-102 (most other digital ring mods do not!).

For bit and samplerate reduction, check out D16's Decimort 2.

Pajor Hill
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02 Feb 2018

dioxide wrote:
01 Feb 2018
What you're looking for is something that emulates Ring Mode not Ring Mod(ulation). There's a video on YouTube demoing the feature and it disables the SP1200's filter so you can hear all the digital noise.

You need to be looking at bitcrushers. Having demoed a few I'd recommend the D16 one.
Very true

I currently have the d16 and have demos the kilo and synapse ones

I demod/trialed the resampler a while back not knowing what I was going after.
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Marco Raaphorst
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02 Feb 2018

Just a few months ago I realised that aliasing is like ring modulation. It's that non musical, false, tonality which can be interesting. It's the opposite of harmonic distortion.

Pajor Hill
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03 Feb 2018

Marco Raaphorst wrote:
02 Feb 2018
Just a few months ago I realised that aliasing is like ring modulation. It's that non musical, false, tonality which can be interesting. It's the opposite of harmonic distortion.
Correct one the BEST uses of it are on Pete Rocks song "One life to live"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A6T-MybvX0
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Pajor Hill wrote:
03 Feb 2018
Marco Raaphorst wrote:
02 Feb 2018
Just a few months ago I realised that aliasing is like ring modulation. It's that non musical, false, tonality which can be interesting. It's the opposite of harmonic distortion.
Correct one the BEST uses of it are on Pete Rocks song "One life to live"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A6T-MybvX0
yeah nice, it makes things fresh even if they are very brown and dark sounding. high end spiciness :)

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04 Feb 2018

So...i just noticed, that some RingMod RE have a side chain input for frequencey manipulation. Can anyone provide a usefull example or explain some details about this feature?
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ljekio
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07 Feb 2018

dvdrtldg wrote:
31 Jan 2018
MeldaProductions have an excellent freebie https://www.meldaproduction.com/MRingModulator
OMG, RM with a weight of 200 mib ...

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ljekio
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07 Feb 2018

Loque wrote:
04 Feb 2018
So...i just noticed, that some RingMod RE have a side chain input for frequencey manipulation. Can anyone provide a usefull example or explain some details about this feature?
Sidechain is input of side signal for amplitude modulation of base signal.
Like this:
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where audio in3 is sidechain.

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03 Aug 2018

Yep, gonna have to say, very much in the kHs corner when it comes to ring-modulation. Just so much to work with. It's not a basic ring-mod. Very useful for all sorts of noise and harmonics.

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ljekio wrote:
07 Feb 2018
dvdrtldg wrote:
31 Jan 2018
MeldaProductions have an excellent freebie https://www.meldaproduction.com/MRingModulator
OMG, RM with a weight of 200 mib ...
That's the size of the entire Melda product line all-in-one installer.

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05 Aug 2018

One of solutions for Ringmod - is HarmBode
https://shop.propellerheads.se/rack-ext ... y-shifter/

Classical Freq-shifters is only half-ringmod, but if Mix of Up and Down sidebands symmetrical, its can be true Ringmod effect.
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bsp wrote:
02 Feb 2018
The best ring mod for Reason is Synapse's RM-1. It actually sounds similar to a Moog MF-102 (most other digital ring mods do not!).

For bit and samplerate reduction, check out D16's Decimort 2.
Second that - both stand out among other RM and Bit-crushers (compared to all RE/VSTs I've tried). The RE by Bcase is fun too, a bit difficult to dial in but super nice and different from Decimort.
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Marco Raaphorst
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07 Aug 2018

Interesting that people are mentioning bit crushers. Ring Modulation causes ghost frequencies like aliasing, not harmonic.

Aliasing is often seen as a issue but you also see it as ring modulation 😀

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