px7 vs. fm4

[mataya]

I mean is px7 really a 100euro better. I find that fm4 is amazing. It sounds fm. my demo expired on px7 and I did not get much time to spend with it, but I think fm4 is maybe a better solution at this point. 19euro.
If Lectric Panda comes with a randomize refill...who knows what's next in this world.

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[mataya]

I just bought the damned thing. It's f* insane!

[EdGrip]

I think the main point of PX7 is original DX7 patches, and 30,000 other free patches.

FM4 is a slightly more cool synth, I'd say, but the patches are far fewer.

[mataya]

Yeah, but this is one of those synths that invites you to play with it and it's super easy, but the sound coming out of it is just insane. Those combinator patches with extra effects in a chain just get's me in a super mood. again, 19euro ..k'mon

[dvdrtldg]

There are some great FM4 combi patches on the Primal Audio website, well worth grabbing

[mataya]

Thanks man. Discovered it by accident while searching for a manual. Great stuff. Synth is really amazing.

[Social Exodus]

For what little I put into FM synths, the FM4 is way easier for me to wrap my head around.
FWIW

[GRIFTY]

It's no contest IMO, fm4 is way cooler. I wish I could sell px7, I am very dissatisfied by it. And parsec too while we're at it

[Emian]

So many talk about FM4 s CPU-usage, is it truely that hungry? Blew my trial when it was released....

[mataya]

It's no contest IMO, fm4 is way cooler. I wish I could sell px7, I am very dissatisfied by it. And parsec too while we're at it

Interesting. I don't have them, but I remember Parsec being very capable. Yeah, fm4 is definitely cool.

[mataya]

So many talk about FM4 s CPU-usage, is it truely that hungry? Blew my trial when it was released....

I recently got my hands on a i7 - 6700k and 16gb of very fast ram and I could say it eats, but it has plenty to eat.
It's worth it.

[Creativemind]

I think the main point of PX7 is original DX7 patches, and 30,000 other free patches.

FM4 is a slightly more cool synth, I'd say, but the patches are far fewer.

Original DX7 patches, sounds interesting. How many patches is that?

[EdGrip]

I don't know how many, but there's all the stock patches that are iconic because everyone used them in the 80s because nobody tried to program their own patches because it was a nightmare synth to program for normal people. The same goes for various extension banks that were available at the time. I've been meaning to try replicating some more typical 80s FM instrument patches on the FM4.

[PhutureD]

I mean is px7 really a 100euro better. I find that fm4 is amazing. It sounds fm. my demo expired on px7 and I did not get much time to spend with it, but I think fm4 is maybe a better solution at this point. 19euro.
If Lectric Panda comes with a randomize refill...who knows what's next in this world.

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Cant say which is better but a panda refill of this thing would be awesome:) Played around with a pc clone of a DX7.
The patches come to life once you start modulating a few controls.

[dioxide]

Im unsure if it is worth the difference in price but Ive got both and i find myself using the PX7 more. I dont know why this is but i think the 6 OPs has something to do with it, i can get some very interesting tones out of it.

[joeyluck]

Im unsure if it is worth the difference in price but Ive got both and i find myself using the PX7 more. I dont know why this is but i think the 6 OPs has something to do with it, i can get some very interesting tones out of it.

Yup. PX7 is one of my favorites. And in comparison, it is much more efficient on CPU, has more operators and algorithms (I enjoy scrolling through these with any of the FM synths), I find PX7 is capable of more complex sounds, the macro sliders are awesome for controlling and handy for quickly discovering new sounds. It's just an easier choice for me. I'd probably use the FM4 more if it was able to convert popular 4 op synth patches. That's another big plus for the PX7—the patch convertor.

RYM2612 is also fantastic and a CPU efficient FM synth. Don't overlook that one! And there's an update for it on the way!

[fieldframe]

I tend to use PX7 and FM4 for different things. If I'm looking for an FM bass, FM4 tends to be my go-to, while PX7 is the one I use for melody lines, especially plucks. The extra operators and more complex envelopes in PX7 make carefully shaping a pluck's attacks and transients possible, while they just get in the way if I'm trying to make a gritty bass!

[Despondo]

I think the main point of PX7 is original DX7 patches, and 30,000 other free patches.

FM4 is a slightly more cool synth, I'd say, but the patches are far fewer.

Original DX7 patches, sounds interesting. How many patches is that?

http://koshdukaimusicreason.blogspot.ca ... o-30k.html

[dioxide]

FM4 is based on the TX81Z whch has additional waveforms. The DX21/100 differs from the DX7 in that the modulation and feedback volume is louder on the DX21/100. The DX7 has more envelope parameters.

I don't have any direct experience of these devices in hardware, this is just stuff I have read online, posted here in case anyone is interested. It might be cool to see a PX7 level of quality emulation of the DX100 with a patch convertor. The differences in sound wouldn't be much but I'd buy it. I already have several analogue subtractive REs so it's comparable to have more than one FM synth for different sounds.

[joeyluck]

FM4 is based on the TX81Z whch has additional waveforms. The DX21/100 differs from the DX7 in that the modulation and feedback volume is louder on the DX21/100. The DX7 has more envelope parameters.

I don't have any direct experience of these devices in hardware, this is just stuff I have read online, posted here in case anyone is interested. It might be cool to see a PX7 level of quality emulation of the DX100 with a patch convertor. The differences in sound wouldn't be much but I'd buy it. I already have several analogue subtractive REs so it's comparable to have more than one FM synth for different sounds.

I'd like a PX100 as well

Solid Bass on PX7 is very close to the DX100 patch. Some patches are possible when working with different algorithms and not using two operators.

[Creativemind]

Solid Bass on PX7 is very close to the DX100 patch. Some patches are possible when working with different algorithms and not using two operators.

Ooh Solid Bass, nice!

[dioxide]

I've gone back to both FM4 and PX7 tonight. The FM4 sounds harsher and thinner to my ears, probably better suited to plucks and some more trebley pads. The PX7 can be pretty meaty sounding which surprised me as I thought both synths would be more like one another. I'd defintely use the PX7 over the FM4 for bass sounds unless I wanted something that growls in the high frequencies.

[Mysterygrimms]

One of these devs need to make a DX100 RE, just for the Solid Bass patch alone.

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[jonheal]

I've gone back to both FM4 and PX7 tonight. The FM4 sounds harsher and thinner to my ears, probably better suited to plucks and some more trebley pads. The PX7 can be pretty meaty sounding which surprised me as I thought both synths would be more like one another. I'd defintely use the PX7 over the FM4 for bass sounds unless I wanted something that growls in the high frequencies.

I do like that avatar! It reminds me of me!

[miscend]

Does PX7 sound identical to the DX7 when you use converted patches? I just might get it if it does because FM8 just doesn’t cut it especially on more complex patches compared to the real thing.