Morphing effect
- EpiGenetik
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Ahem,ahem,,,kvaaard...sorry about that
Please give a little more detail as to what you mean by morphing?
Please give a little more detail as to what you mean by morphing?
- EpiGenetik
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Before I disappear, I'm going to take a wild guess that this is what you're after - works best when used in conjunction with a Combinator
https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/volt-sl-1/
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perhaps with this
https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/volt-sl-1/
https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/volt-sl-1/
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- EpiGenetik
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Right, that could mean a few different things. Aftertouch is if you hold the keys and apply pressure to get the morph behaviour, or possibly the release setting, either polyphonic or monophonic.
Either way what you want isn't a device as such but a common feature on most modern synths/samplers.
Either way what you want isn't a device as such but a common feature on most modern synths/samplers.
You can easily crossfade between two different sounds/patches/samples, but it's not at all "morphing". The difference is that when you are at the 50% point with crossfading you are hearing TWO sounds. When you are at the 50% with morphing you are still hearing one sound, but one sound that shares it's qualities 50/50 with another.
One place you really hear the difference is when there is a tuning difference, however slight, between two sounds that are being crossfaded. At the 50% point you hear a chorusing effect due to the detuning which is not a part of EITHER of the individual sounds. With morphing there would be no chorusing effect.
The problem is that morphing is much more difficult to achieve and is typically only a part of a re-synthesis or additive synthesis instrument. You can also have "patch morphing", which gets tricky when you have stepped patch parameters, and often doesn't give a 50/50 split of the sound at 50% because all parameters are not linear.
Deep topic, hope I explained the concepts - now back to the OP, which one are you looking for?
One place you really hear the difference is when there is a tuning difference, however slight, between two sounds that are being crossfaded. At the 50% point you hear a chorusing effect due to the detuning which is not a part of EITHER of the individual sounds. With morphing there would be no chorusing effect.
The problem is that morphing is much more difficult to achieve and is typically only a part of a re-synthesis or additive synthesis instrument. You can also have "patch morphing", which gets tricky when you have stepped patch parameters, and often doesn't give a 50/50 split of the sound at 50% because all parameters are not linear.
Deep topic, hope I explained the concepts - now back to the OP, which one are you looking for?
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Total layman's analysis: It seems if you took the frequency spectrum of one sound and measured its values at various points. And then did the same with another sound, you could calculate a series of "interpolated" in-between frequency spectrum curves, resembling first one sound and then with each iteration, less resembling the first and more resembling the second sound. and then cycle through all of them in a sequence.
I wonder what this exercise in higher mathematics (Fourier transforms?) would sound like?
I wonder what this exercise in higher mathematics (Fourier transforms?) would sound like?
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Emu had a morphing module along with the mo-phat and several other things back in the early nineties but I was hoping Reason had a device that mimic something similar. Is it possible to create a combinator that can do something close? If so what would it take?
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The morphing module from the Emu samplers is called z-plane filter
The RE with z-plane filter is https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/ ... equalizer/
The RE with z-plane filter is https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/ ... equalizer/
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Taking the spectrum of sounds is on thing. Imposing it on another is totally different. You are basically talking about EQ here, and EQ can't transform one sound into another.jonheal wrote:Total layman's analysis: It seems if you took the frequency spectrum of one sound and measured its values at various points. And then did the same with another sound, you could calculate a series of "interpolated" in-between frequency spectrum curves, resembling first one sound and then with each iteration, less resembling the first and more resembling the second sound. and then cycle through all of them in a sequence.
I wonder what this exercise in higher mathematics (Fourier transforms?) would sound like?
What you would need to do is analyze a sound then synthesize it with additive synthesis. Then do the same for another. Then use the data to create the morph. I've got an old idea for a synth that is actually based on this concept but it's quite advanced to make it work (and CPU extensive as well). One day...
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So in theory it could be achieved it one sound was under the other sound just silent then would take the tale end of the sound as the other sound fades out. Okay other than making the additive synth could one sound be layered and delayed to mimic morphing by bringing the delayed sound out as the other sound decays? The new question how to have two sound generating simitinously to manipulate which one goes first or second? Thank you Mr Selig. I hope you make your synth soon. Cpu or no cpu its new technology and in my opinion it would be nice it could be done.
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I think there are many types of morphing. Here's a nice one from Ed Hydlide:
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