Do I need Creme?

[mbfrancis]

I'd love to hear from the guitarists who are using Reason only. Do I need Creme?

I have two guitars, a Tele and Jazzmaster. I play indie rock/pop, but sometimes do shoegaze or more punk-y stuff, so would like the option to go as hard / massive as I need to. I currently am using Vermillion and the Softube Amp. I trialed Creme an eon ago, but honestly didn't hear that much difference with Vermillion at the time, although I'm sure their different. What does Creme bring to the table sonically that I don't have now? I want to use my End of Summer Sale funds wisely.

Any help appreciated, thanks!

[Resonator]

Creme is more like a Marshall amp, as Vermillion is to a Fender amp. If you want heavier tones, then go for it.

[gak]

Creme is based on "badcat" and is mostly a high-gain amp. For me it's a necessity, for what you are describing I'd probably be more in tune with the vermilion you have (or the softube)

[KnowKontrol]

I love Creme for guitars.... I have the heavier one and its amazing, I get a lot of the grit and harmonics that I am looking for. The noise gate in it is pretty good also.

[mbfrancis]

Thanks, guys, makes sense. Trying to avoid buying more EQs and Comps just because they're on sale, but something that will bring new sonic flavors to the table. Seems like this fits the bill.

[esselfortium]

I bought Vermillion first, but so far I've gotten far more usage out of Creme, for my needs. It definitely has its own distinct sound.

[jfrichards]

Creme has three excellent distortion pedals and some great 4x12 cabinets. The distortion/gain of the amps and pre-amps is able to go 200-400% more intense than Vermilion. I like to use a Creme pedal with Vermilion and a Creme 4x12, sounds like a vintage Marshall. If you have Revival already, you don't need Creme so much. Revival effects/preamp -> Vermilion amp -> Revival cabinet = great tone. But Creme is seriously great by itself.

Some examples of what only Creme can do:

[CharlyCharlzz]

One month Trial can always Help , testing is the best thing you can do IMO .

[esselfortium]

One month Trial can always Help , testing is the best thing you can do IMO .

I trialed Creme an eon ago,

[challism]

Revival is amazing just for the FX (the synth/organ is also amazing). Revival is fantastic. I'm glad to hear that Revival sort of makes Creme redundant, since I own Revival, but dont own Creme. I also own Vermilion, and am very happy with it... sounds great.

[JNeffLind]

Revival is amazing just for the FX (the synth/organ is also amazing). Revival is fantastic. I'm glad to hear that Revival sort of makes Creme redundant, since I own Revival, but dont own Creme. I also own Vermilion, and am very happy with it... sounds great.

But you can't put Revival in your coffee.

[joeyluck]

I'm not a guitar player, but do use guitar samples (such as Shreddage) coupled with guitar effects, so perhaps this is why this is over my head...

But I seem to always get the two Kuassa guitar amps mixed up. When I see the name and logo of Vermillion, I think of it serving the purpose of Creme (and vice versa)—as in Vermillion being the the one intended for heavy metal and Creme being intended for more clean sounds. But that of course is not the case.

Anyways, great sounding plugins!

[Tincture]

I'd be surprised if you need Creme Martin, having listened to your music. Hope I'm not tarring you with a brush (?). I just know that even I use vermilion more than creme and I like a bit of harsh

[challism]

But you can't put Revival in your coffee.

Try to stop me!

[mbfrancis]

I'd be surprised if you need Creme Martin, having listened to your music. Hope I'm not tarring you with a brush (?). I just know that even I use vermilion more than creme and I like a bit of harsh

Haha no worries, Tincture - I bought it...we'll see how it goes. Thanks all!

[Tincture]

They are excellent value and it gives you those sound options.

[Marco Raaphorst]

if you want a tick overdriven sound that is also transparent then you need Creme. using neck pickups in particular.

[jfrichards]

Creme is good.

[mbfrancis]

OK, so I played with Creme last night, and it definitely fills a gap I have for big massive guitar sounds. It does feel a little one-note though, the # of presets is disappointing (no combis?!?). I'll have to play with the distortion pedals a bit more, they definitely sound nice. I tried to hook up John's Creme Pedal > Vermillion Amp > Creme Cabinet but it sounded sad and small. (John could you possibly post a combi?)

Here's something I was messing around with, a shoegaze-y thing where I ran Creme mega-distorted parallel with a chime-y thing on Vermillion: http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13212283. This is my Tele running both pickups. Woohoo let's party like it's '92!!!

[Tincture]

Just had a listen... nice combination of sounds. Pretty but with a dirty gusset. As for '92... I'm having a bit of a Mudhoney revival in my listening at the minute so '88 to '92 is appropriate. Next up Sonic Youth... discords heaven.