We need a basic Sidechain/Pumping RE

[mbfrancis]

Something super simple that did *one thing* well...pumping. Basic controls for shape, speed, "pump time" (e,g 1/4 notes, 1/8 notes etc.) and dry/wet mix. Done.

Synchronous has some good patches but it feels like overkill...I hope the simpler patches use less CPU.

Currently I'm doing crazy routing with the send from the Redrum kick going to a spider then going to different MClass compressors on each track, and I adjust the attack and threshold to taste by track. Works, but ugly. I wish basic LFO curves worked (like just using a Pulverizer with the tremor controlling volume) but they're not very musical for me.

Not sure I'd pay >$20 for this, if that. But they'd sell a ton, I'd think. Maybe just me.

[alex]

Well, on a second read, I realized that you already mentioned the pulverizer solution...

Something got me excited (like "Eureka!") and I didn't read entirely your post... Sorry!

:facepalm: ...

Carry on.

[pjeudy]

Something super simple that did *one thing* well...pumping. Basic controls for shape, speed, "pump time" (e,g 1/4 notes, 1/8 notes etc.) and dry/wet mix. Done.

To translate your post into images...you mean this:

It's $15 right now

[mbfrancis]

Something super simple that did *one thing* well...pumping. Basic controls for shape, speed, "pump time" (e,g 1/4 notes, 1/8 notes etc.) and dry/wet mix. Done.

To translate your post into images...you mean this:

It's $15 right now

Haha...yup. I think Waves has something, too. How hard could it be?

[pjeudy]

Haha...yup. I think Waves has something, too. How hard could it be?

I agree with you 100%
If I where a coder..I would look at all the Very useful VST devices ...and straight up rip them in to RE's, but with the explicit requirement to not only recreate there features into the RE format but also to make sure that I added one or more improvement or addition to them if possible.

[ScuzzyEye]

Haha...yup. I think Waves has something, too. How hard could it be?

It's actually a device I thought about making. I wasn't sure how well it would go over, because it's also so easy to do with default devices, or at least Pulsar. So the answer is, not difficult at all, but it may not have too much of a market, and will definitely have complainers about "you don't need an RE to do this."

[Benedict]

If looking to create a "pump" from a Gate then I would grab CV Mutant as that allows you to create an custom Env triggered by a gate. You have a lot of control over the way the Env behaves.

Once made it could be saved off as Combi

[mbfrancis]

Once made it could be saved off as Combi

Nope, sorry, no combis. Must be a simple device with a few controls, that's the whole point. We all know hacks...

[pjeudy]

Haha...yup. I think Waves has something, too. How hard could it be?

It's actually a device I thought about making. I wasn't sure how well it would go over, because it's also so easy to do with default devices, or at least Pulsar. So the answer is, not difficult at all, but it may not have too much of a market, and will definitely have complainers about "you don't need an RE to do this."

If you think about it. People who would complain about it being possible with other devices,thus making it unnecessary, would probably only do so on this forum.How many people would that be ? We all know that the entire REASON community was never on PUF or here.
I remember people saying that they can create there own Multiband compression with REASON native devices...yet we don't see a heavy request for those people to upload those combinators, we don't see those combi rated as best combi ever for example. And we don't see any type of comparisons, combinator Multiband vs what's in the shop (4dyne and now SPLEX Multiband Comp)

I have at least 2-3 ways that I like to set up a sidechain...but if you where able to make a single,small user friendly flexible device light on cpu...I would be interested. A little research would also probably be very useful...meaning I would look at this Kick device or any other one...and either replicate them or improve on them for the RE version!
Also I think that some on here know how I feel about UI design...that alone can make a simple device like that stand out! We have people on these forums that can help with that ! Nirude comes to mind.

[pjeudy]

I think Waves has something, too.

I think KICK seems more flexible!

[Viscor]

Route everything into one bus + automate the SSL fader + a lot of Ctr+C/Ctr+V.
You can route the leads and basses etc. to different buses if you don't want to duck everything with the same gain reduction amount.
This usually gives you the most control.

At least I do it that way.

[lowpryo]

I'd buy a device like this for the right price! I know some people are in love with their CV and clever routing but any shortcut I can take to not flip around the rack or create an automation lane, I take it! (maybe Reason isn't really the DAW for me? oh well)

[Benedict]

Has anyone thought of drawing up a plan and taking it to Pitcheblende to see if he wants to make it with you?

[Reasonistas]

Figure has this feature built right into the mix section.

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IMHO, It would be great if this was incorporated into the SSL mixer (instead of a Re) with a turn on/off button on each channel.

Here is a super-duper rough illustration using Nicky Romero's Kickstart plugin.

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Also, I'm sure most of you know this, but here are two popular "work arounds" in case you missed them.

Selig's Send Ducker

Peff's Groove Pump Compression System
http://www.peff.com/journal/2006/05/15/ ... on-system/

[mbfrancis]

How cool. That's crazy that Peff's blog post is almost 10 years old.

[K1TTENM1TTEN]

I would buy it. It feels like this would be in that $9 RE category, and for $9 I certainly would throw a couple days worth of lunch money at it and eat a sandwich from the house. Side-chaining, although not difficult, is kind of a light kick to the groin area in terms inconvenience, especially when looking at the VST world and how it is available there, haha.