Tres Mono Synth Vs VK-1

[bxbrkrz]

Any feedback for anyone owning both. The sale deal is tempting right now. I would add distributor. The feedback I am looking for is what module do you have more fun toying around with? Which one do you load up first, after all those past months. I will eventually get both one day.

[eusti]

For me Tres is more immediate... Viking sounds a little more refined in my ears... Tres a bit more rough... Not that you can't make Viking sound rough too... But for the simpler sounds I go for Tres...

D.

[bxbrkrz]

For me Tres is more immediate... Viking sounds a little more refined in my ears... Tres a bit more rough... Not that you can't make Viking sound rough too... But for the simpler sounds I go for Tres...

D.

Nice. Thanks.

[Puckboy2000]

Any feedback for anyone owning both. The sale deal is tempting right now. I would add distributor. The feedback I am looking for is what module do you have more fun toying around with? Which one do you load up first, after all those past months. I will eventually get both one day.

I have both. Tres is better in my opinion. Cooler sounds. Viking is more of an 80s type sound. But the Viking is still cool.

[bxbrkrz]

Any feedback for anyone owning both. The sale deal is tempting right now. I would add distributor. The feedback I am looking for is what module do you have more fun toying around with? Which one do you load up first, after all those past months. I will eventually get both one day.

I have both. Tres is better in my opinion. Cooler sounds. Viking is more of an 80s type sound. But the Viking is still cool.

 Tres it will be then. Cool.

[Theo.M]

I was initially sold on Tres due to the fxpansion dcam tech and cheaper price, and did buy it for $49, but it's been viking that I have actually ended up using the most. Go figure. I guess it's because I like to start from a preset as a rough guideline, and I simply fee that Viking has much more dev support as there are great refills for it out there.

I have heard some great sounds out of tres in demo tracks from PUF members though, one in particular whose name escapes me, so either I just haven't found the right sounds yet or he was using very complex combis.

Benedict made a nice bank for it, they happen to be the sounds i go to first when using Tres, but even so, if the sound is not quite "right" for the song, i find it much harder than viking to get it where I want it to be.

Ironically, viking does sound more "digital". I think most would agree on that, going by previous posts and at the PUF. But for me it's simply able to fit into my tunes better. I do throw stuff onto it, softube sat or a nice comp with transformers (FET) and EQ(TRIDENT), and that really helps with the "digitalyness" if that makes sense.
(and yes, i know that's not a word LOL)

[joeyluck]

I wish either had a polyphonic mode...

[EnochLight]

I prefer TRES, especially at its current price.  It just sounds so... I dunno - "fat"?  Hard to describe.  

[joeyluck]

In related news...  I want the old look back!
 
Is there anybody who didn't upgrade just to keep the old look? Hehe

 

[Neo]

+1 For the old UI skin! lol. Own both.. Tres over VK if i absolutely had to choose.. err

[Faastwalker]

I liked the old Viking GUI But I've come to prefer the new one. I wonder if Moog waded in over the Voyager GUI?

Tempted by Tres myself at the sale price. I love Etch Red & the modulation it offers. Tres would be fun to play around with.

[pedrocaetanos]

As much as Viking sounds good, it has already been demonstrated that Thor, when well programmed, can do about the same (eXode has been very skillful at this - but as I remember it, with time eXode ended up fancying Viking - he should be around to tell the story ). No doubt that Viking is much more immediate at impersonating a Moog.

It also burns a lot more CPU than Thor. But so does Tres. I have the impression that Tres is even heavier on the CPU, but I haven't done a direct comparison yet, so don't take my word for it. (I already have Etch Red, and I can build a mono synth with it, so I don't feel the need for Tres, unless it was for it's oscillators)

I wonder if I would have bought Viking it with it's present looks... I loved the Moogish GUI.
But I believe it will never return. This has never became publicly reported, but I believe Moog complained to Propellerheads, who in turn asked Blamsoft change the GUI (I expect it would be either that, or remove it from the shop). I think the looks are "locked" in it's present form. I speculate that it been accepted by Moog, and so any change would be risky.

For a time I didn't upgrade, but bug fixes arrived, new features, OS re-installations... in the long term there was no alternative but to upgrade. With time I accepted the new look, but whenever I look at the old one, I hate the new one again.

I does sound good however. It's a great machine and there is at least 1 very good expansion soundset around (from SoundCells).

[Exowildebeest]

I vastly prefer Viking - it's much easier to program imo. Tres sounds a bit more gritty (great filters and drive) but almost too much so - and its GUI is so messy that getting some subtlety out of it is a chore. Viking can do gritty and subtle more easily.

[Majestik Monkey]

I too own Both Tres & Viking !

i have no preference as to either one of them as my favourite . . . 
i think they are both very capable Synth's , as for Viking's GUI , the old one was better IMO ... the darker Skin-Tone suited the nature of the Synth.
also i don't agree with Theo's statement about Viking sounding more [ Digital ] than Tres . . . .
I think Viking lends itself to an Analog sound much more than most Re-Synth's in the shop ! but hey that's just my opinion  :s0403:

[childofsaturn]

I love Tres. After spending just a little bit of time getting to know it, it's easy to craft your own sounds without much headache. It can sound both digital and analogue. My one big complaint about Tres is how velocity sensitivity is handled. I've tried adjusting curves in my hardware, but no matter what, I'm not very happy with the velocity sensitivity, so I usually just turn off velocity sensitivity - which, in my opinion, is more authentic for analogue anyways. Unfortunately, it makes it a pain in the ass to browse patches because they all seem to have velocity sensitivity.

*Warning: I said velocity sensitivity way too much in the above paragraph.

[manisnotabird]

The velocity buttons in the Amp Envelope and (free) Envelope sections in Tres route way too much velocity to the envelopes. But you can route Velocity from the Transmod section to the the gain on both or either of envelopes and adjust it to be much more subtle.

[manisnotabird]

You can also route the velocity in Tres to either of the drives and/or the emphasis section.

A cool thing you can do with Viking is make a true duophonic synth. Put two of them in a combinator. Set the filter on the first one to bypass, the gate to "on" and the keyboard mode to "highest". Route the output of that into the external input of the second one. Set the keyboard mode on the second one to "lowest" and make sure to turn on the external switch in the mixer. Sounds pretty cool if you set glide on the first one pretty high.

[tibah]

I would simply go for Tres based on my good experience with FXpansion products, enjoying the DCAM modelling and the *different* patching approach you get with the system they created. It isn't as good as with their plug-ins, but still something different to stimulate your brain. If you can get into patching it that is. I love Strobe and wish Tres had the same *balls*, but it's the closest you can get to that. One can wish FXpansion will upgrade Tres one day to new SDK standards for even more intuitive programming.

[Emian]

i rencently bought Viking along with the Synthetic Rig & was very imressed with it ! As Majestik Monkey said, Viking also sounds real analogue ^^ working on a track with a bassline with long notes, filter half closed at first & then opening towards a climax, but damn, that is one fine warm bass-sound to me !
 
I trialed Tres very long ago, but i didn't ave that same "wow"-feeling at first. and also my issue with FX-pansion is their RE's really are CPU hogs (i own Etch, but i'm carefull to wen throw it in the rack....).
Even their Comps are way more hungry then the McDSP's, wich is the reason i bought those ....
 
So anyway, my point is, i really love Viking so far, real warm bass sound to me & great filter !
 

[eXode]

I vastly prefer Viking - it's much easier to program imo. Tres sounds a bit more gritty (great filters and drive) but almost too much so - and its GUI is so messy that getting some subtlety out of it is a chore. Viking can do gritty and subtle more easily.

This is actually how I feel about Tres as well. I sometimes go in thinking that I want to program it, and then just get put off by it. I can't be bothered.

As far as Viking go, I think it's a good emulation, I love the detail in the filter. I had trouble hearing any differences when comparing Viking to my Sub Phatty. Possibly the Sub Phatty had more punch in the VCA somehow but that was when listening 1 on 1. I doubt that these differences would be audible in a mix.

I think they're different enough in character to warrant both in the rack.

[Tincture]

I have both and like them both. Tres at that sale price is a no brainer IMO I'd certainly buy Viking again as well... In fact I did... Got the big Polymod bundle for 64 euros... Bargain! Loving playing with the sounbank patches for that exode!

[manisnotabird]

Here's a duophonic Viking combinator I made.

[chimp_spanner]

Would you guys say the Viking synth has a character that makes it worth buying over simply making a monosynth in Thor? Or is it more about the workflow and ease of editing? Can't believe I'm even asking as I bought the Polymodular Bundle but stuff it; I'm ill and I wanna treat myself to something. I'm just not 100% sure what yet haha.

[pjeudy]

 Here are some Patches for Viking.
 Also The Viking has no on board fx , so I used reverb,Chorus,delay etc... on the patches.

The external RE's in these patches can be switch with REASON devices not a big Deal 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xy0efgzr3c4x0 ... s.rar?dl=0

[Tincture]

Guess your Try has passed? I would say Viking is a grower, like all good albums. Not instantly fully excessible but once it's monophonic and mono (I.e don't stereoize the filters) qualities are clear it's a joy to play with for me. Great filter, nice filter drives and rez works up high nicely.

Would you guys say the Viking synth has a character that makes it worth buying over simply making a monosynth in Thor? Or is it more about the workflow and ease of editing? Can't believe I'm even asking as I bought the Polymodular Bundle but stuff it; I'm ill and I wanna treat myself to something. I'm just not 100% sure what yet haha.