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Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by buddard

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by ncurry
Congrats! Flexible and powerful little device.

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by eusti
Congrats, looks great!

D.

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by Emian

She's a beauty ! :)
 
A nice trick :
 
* open a starter combi & connect a matrix to the combi.
* randomize pattern of the Matrix until it sounds cool .
*record with Step & remove Matrix
*now transpose/add Tie or Rest/change direction/ ....
 
WAY Cool device ;)
 

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by JoshuaPhilgarlic
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Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by challism
Congrats Niklas.  I hope you sell a million licenses!  I'm really excited for you guys.

:)

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by Puckboy2000
Can't wait to dive into it.

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by joeyluck
Might wait on this one until pattern to track is possible.

Looks like fun!

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by Tincture
Because this device is all about playing with the sequence (rather than necessarily the pitches, although it can transpose as well :) ), for me, this is one device where I'm not bothered about Notes to Track. It quickly makes a whole range of illiteration's possible. 

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by JoshuaPhilgarlic
Tincture wrote:Because this device is all about playing with the sequence (rather than necessarily the pitches, although it can transpose as well :) ), for me, this is one device where I'm not bothered about Notes to Track. It quickly makes a whole range of illiteration's possible. 
Agree! BTW I'm wondering why people cry for note-to-track all the time but never for pattern change? All this pattern based stuff is just half-backed without the ability to change those patterns like it's already possible with Matrix or Redrum. For me note-to-track is just a goody, but pattern change is a basic requirement!

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by doctecazoid
Viewed the video.  Read the user guide.  Bought the bundle.  Brilliant piece of kit!

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by Emian
Tincture wrote:Because this device is all about playing with the sequence (rather than necessarily the pitches, although it can transpose as well :) ), for me, this is one device where I'm not bothered about Notes to Track. It quickly makes a whole range of illiteration's possible. 
 
 
that is so exactly how i tought of it :) ! it's a FUN toy, quick & easy to use (as was Euclid).
things like these are great when out of inspiration, so stimulating !!

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by stxlm
That was an insta-buy! Gave me a reason to buy ABL2 as well. :)

If there's a wish-list: I love the randomize and alter features of Matrix. Is that possible to implement later? 
(Tried recording a matrix pattern, and while that is great, I don't get the ties & rests.)

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by joeyluck
JoshuaPhilgarlic wrote: Agree! BTW I'm wondering why people cry for not-to-track all the time...
Well I wouldn't say cry for...LOL
Just patience over here :) I think it will be something that becomes possible sometime down the road. Without it, it feels like REs aren't fully integrated with Reason.

I spend much time in the Sequencer and I like to see the notes in the sequencer. If I change keys for the bridge, without notes-to-track, I would make changes in the sequencer and then have to look elsewhere and make changes elsewhere. For me, it would actually be most ideal if the Sequencer simply had step record. But the next best thing would be something like this with note-to-track. 

There is a workaround, but then that sort of defeats the purpose of the simplicity a device such as this is to add. At that point, it would be more efficient if I just click individual 1/16 notes in the sequencer...






Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by dvdrtldg
I can't get velocity to work - drawing in curves does nothing, unless I reduce the velocity to zero, in which case the note is silent.

Same with the velocity knob - silent at zero, then consistent velocity everywhere else, like an on/off switch. I've gone through the manual - what am I missing here?

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by joeyluck
For me note-to-track is just a goody, but pattern change is a basic requirement!
nikolafeve wrote: 100% agree!!
What do you mean by 'pattern change'?

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by JoshuaPhilgarlic
For me note-to-track is just a goody, but pattern change is a basic requirement!
nikolafeve wrote: 100% agree!!
joeyluck wrote:
What do you mean by 'pattern change'?
Ok, 'Pattern Select' seems to be the proper name ;) . This one...

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I think this should be basic functionality for a pattern based device!

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by eusti
For me note-to-track is just a goody, but pattern change is a basic requirement!
nikolafeve wrote: 100% agree!!
joeyluck wrote:
What do you mean by 'pattern change'?
JoshuaPhilgarlic wrote: Ok, 'Pattern Select' seems to be the proper name ;) . This one...
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JoshuaPhilgarlic wrote:
I think this should be basic functionality for a pattern based device!
I agree. Use it all the time with OctoRex.
But I'd still love to see note to track... For when you're finished playing around and being inspired and want to shift things around either rhythmically or timing wise...

D.

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by JoshuaPhilgarlic
eusti wrote:I agree. Use it all the time with OctoRex.
But I'd still love to see note to track... For when you're finished playing around and being inspired and want to shift things around either rhythmically or timing wise...

D.
Sure, note2track is cool for tweaking when the basic pattern programing is done. Even though I rarely use it I understand that people like it. But I think pattern select is a much more basic feature and I fear that Props forget this about all that calls for note2track ;) . It's cool that Step is bundled with Select, but it's still a clumsy workaround - and a waste of resources! Why use multiple Steps and Select when one single device would be sufficient - if Props finally offer this very basic feature that their stock devices provide for centuries now???

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by eusti
eusti wrote:I agree. Use it all the time with OctoRex.
But I'd still love to see note to track... For when you're finished playing around and being inspired and want to shift things around either rhythmically or timing wise...

D.
JoshuaPhilgarlic wrote: Sure, note2track is cool for tweaking when the basic pattern programing is done. Even though I rarely use it I understand that people like it. But I think pattern select is a much more basic feature and I fear that Props forget this about all that calls for note2track ;) . It's cool that Step is bundled with Select, but it's still a clumsy workaround - and a waste of resources! Why use multiple Steps and Select when one single device would be sufficient - if Props finally offer this very basic feature that their stock devices provide for centuries now???
I completely agree: I want REs do be able to do the same things as stock devices can: Sample loading, REX loading, Pattern automation, note to track, etc.
I understand the want to sandbox stuff, but I want the REs to be more powerful!

D.


Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 10 Apr 2015
by challism
For you guys who want pattern select (and who doesn't, right?), I find that Select CV Switch (bundled with Step) is a good solution to this problem.  You will need multiple instances of Step to accomplish this, but it's better than nothing, yeah?

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 11 Apr 2015
by buddard
dvdrtldg wrote:I can't get velocity to work - drawing in curves does nothing, unless I reduce the velocity to zero, in which case the note is silent.

Same with the velocity knob - silent at zero, then consistent velocity everywhere else, like an on/off switch. I've gone through the manual - what am I missing here?
That sounds strange, I've never heard about this problem before... What happens when you move the Width knob, do you see the velocity bars becoming narrower/wider?

Do you have Euclid or synchronous? Can you draw in their displays?

If the problem persists, please file a support request at http://roboticbean.com/creative/support/

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 11 Apr 2015
by selig
dvdrtldg wrote:I can't get velocity to work - drawing in curves does nothing, unless I reduce the velocity to zero, in which case the note is silent.

Same with the velocity knob - silent at zero, then consistent velocity everywhere else, like an on/off switch. I've gone through the manual - what am I missing here?
What you describe sounds exactly like you're using a patch on the receiving end that doesn't respond to volume velocity. BTW, a velocity of 0 is considered a "note off", so that's why it behaves like an on/off switch. Make sure the patch is actually velocity sensitive (or try a different patch) and you should see a difference. :)

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 11 Apr 2015
by frog974new
challism wrote:For you guys who want pattern select (and who doesn't, right?), I find that Select CV Switch (bundled with Step) is a good solution to this problem.  You will need multiple instances of Step to accomplish this, but it's better than nothing, yeah?
my 2 cents on this ;)
yep the bundle is a good solution but !!
to have flexilibity for one Re we need to by the others Re Oo

Step and Select are in the shop!

Posted: 11 Apr 2015
by buddard
dvdrtldg wrote:I can't get velocity to work - drawing in curves does nothing, unless I reduce the velocity to zero, in which case the note is silent.

Same with the velocity knob - silent at zero, then consistent velocity everywhere else, like an on/off switch. I've gone through the manual - what am I missing here?
selig wrote:
What you describe sounds exactly like you're using a patch on the receiving end that doesn't respond to volume velocity. BTW, a velocity of 0 is considered a "note off", so that's why it behaves like an on/off switch. Make sure the patch is actually velocity sensitive (or try a different patch) and you should see a difference. :)
Ah, of course! I thought that the problem was that there was no visual feedback.  :s0959:

Thanks, Selig!