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TritoneAddiction wrote:The update made a difference on the DSP bar for sure. I loaded up my track I wrote for the song challenge. Before the update the track stuttered like crazy in Reason, but now it plays everything through fine.

The only weird thing I noticed was that one particular instrument (with Legend) sounded different, a lot bassier. That happened after the update. I'm not sure what's happening, if it's due to the changes in The Legend or something else is going on, but there's a difference.
Oh well, the song is rendered and officially released anyway. I'm not gonna change anything at this point.

riemac wrote:Fantastic update Richard, now I'm sold and got my believe back in Reason
Before I could run 15 instances of the Legend, after update 45!

With this new technology, would it be possible to improve the performance of Antidote as well (not that it is bad in the first place)?

SynapseAudio wrote:

TritoneAddiction wrote:The update made a difference on the DSP bar for sure. I loaded up my track I wrote for the song challenge. Before the update the track stuttered like crazy in Reason, but now it plays everything through fine.

The only weird thing I noticed was that one particular instrument (with Legend) sounded different, a lot bassier. That happened after the update. I'm not sure what's happening, if it's due to the changes in The Legend or something else is going on, but there's a difference.
Oh well, the song is rendered and officially released anyway. I'm not gonna change anything at this point.

It is probably just the free running oscillators, which are always in a different phase, as in every analog synth. This can make a difference for bass sounds sometimes, dependent on the patch. If you're 100% sure something is wrong though, you can always send us a patch or song for inspection, but we did have this version beta-tested and noone noticed any difference (there really shouldn't be any).

Richard

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Breach The Sky wrote:

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Have you tried Kilohearts Faturator? I don't like the distortion that much but the widening effect is excellent imo.

TritoneAddiction wrote:

Breach The Sky wrote:

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Have you tried Kilohearts Faturator? I don't like the distortion that much but the widening effect is excellent imo.

Yeah I've tried it. But that's just the haas effect right? Just one speaker being slightly delayed.

Breach The Sky wrote:

TritoneAddiction wrote:

Breach The Sky wrote:

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Have you tried Kilohearts Faturator? I don't like the distortion that much but the widening effect is excellent imo.

Yeah I've tried it. But that's just the haas effect right? Just one speaker being slightly delayed.

I checked and you're right. Oh well, works for me apparently!

SynapseAudio wrote:

Marco Raaphorst wrote:

SynapseAudio wrote:Similarly, if you try to simulate a tube amp with a digital distortion plus EQ, you can get very nice tones that way but it's not nearly the same.

Maybe an idea for your next project? I am absolutely sure we can go beyond what's currently available in amp simulation. Plus all these cool guitar effects. Finding that unexpected non-lineair magic is fun. And I think we can go beyond that. Like you have proven with The Legend which imo has more to offer than a real Minimoog. It's here were code shows the world that digital truly is the next step in perfecting sound forever. And as you might understand, with perfect I also mean that imperfect randomness which is so super cool about non-lineair stuff. That's the reason (!) I play guitar. It is such an expressive and dynamic instrument, I LOVE it.

Consider it: amps and pedals in code.

Yeah that would be fun, though Kuassa/Blamsoft already beat us to it. Then again there is of course plenty of amps and stomp boxes left that could be simulated. We'll think about it

Richard

Antidote uses a different approach. There is a few parts that might benefit from SSE vectorization, but I'm not sure how much performance this would bring. The Legend's concept is based from the very beginning around processing its four voices in parallel. This fits perfectly to an analog synth emulation with a fixed polyphony of say 4 or 8 voices, as well as a somewhat limited feature set. It is less ideal for a synth like Antidote or DUNE 2 where the voices are allocated flexibly and have a rather complex internal modulation system working under the hood.
Richard

tanni wrote:...Its a shame that it can only play 4 voices. For pads etc. I'll need mostly 6-8 voices...

tanni wrote:

Antidote uses a different approach. There is a few parts that might benefit from SSE vectorization, but I'm not sure how much performance this would bring. The Legend's concept is based from the very beginning around processing its four voices in parallel. This fits perfectly to an analog synth emulation with a fixed polyphony of say 4 or 8 voices, as well as a somewhat limited feature set. It is less ideal for a synth like Antidote or DUNE 2 where the voices are allocated flexibly and have a rather complex internal modulation system working under the hood.
Richard

Hello Richard,
a very nice synth and good sounding. Its a shame that it can only play 4 voices. For pads etc. I'll need mostly 6-8 voices. So if it was hardware I can understand a voice-limiting because of costs, but in a softsynth I cant follow that. Maybe you can expand this feature ?
thanks.

Gardinski wrote:Yup... just use the combinator to create a keyboard split, with the left hand going to one instance of Legend, and the right hand going to a second. Works beautifully (unless you want all 8 fingers in the same half of the keyboard.. but obviously you could split further into 4 instances or whatever.) Since the recent update, the DSP usage is so low you could double up as often as you want.

TritoneAddiction wrote:I'm not a technical guy at all so this is probably a retarded question, but here it goes anyway.
Can I use the The Legends reverb as a send effect? If so, how? A clear step by step explanation with the routing would be helpful.

Loving this synth by the way.

Marco Raaphorst wrote:

TritoneAddiction wrote:I'm not a technical guy at all so this is probably a retarded question, but here it goes anyway.
Can I use the The Legends reverb as a send effect? If so, how? A clear step by step explanation with the routing would be helpful.

Loving this synth by the way.

Yes you can but you need to use a keyboard, sequence or CV device to open the note gate on the back of the device. This opens the filter and allows audio to be send through the reverb.

Loque wrote:

Marco Raaphorst wrote:

TritoneAddiction wrote:I'm not a technical guy at all so this is probably a retarded question, but here it goes anyway.
Can I use the The Legends reverb as a send effect? If so, how? A clear step by step explanation with the routing would be helpful.

Loving this synth by the way.

Yes you can but you need to use a keyboard, sequence or CV device to open the note gate on the back of the device. This opens the filter and allows audio to be send through the reverb.

There is the Note Stand RE that could help.

TritoneAddiction wrote: a good stereo widener are desperately needed in the Reason environment. The only stereo widener for Reason is the stock stereo imager and that one is far from the best out there.

pjeudy wrote:

TritoneAddiction wrote: a good stereo widener are desperately needed in the Reason environment. The only stereo widener for Reason is the stock stereo imager and that one is far from the best out there.

There are a couple of stereo wideners in the shop! what I think you want is a Multiband stereo widener and a good Multiband exciter or even a single band one....I agree with you the one that I tried at in the shop, didn't.....Uhm...excite me

Flint32 wrote:Got the VST version for free

SynapseAudio wrote:

fceramic wrote:I would love to get this in VST as well. Hopefully Synapse can offer a discount.

We plan to make the crossgrade free of charge, just send us your PH invoice as proof of purchase once the VST is out

Richard

The_G wrote:

Flint32 wrote:Got the VST version for free

How?