**More..more..and more** New Rack Extension From KiloHearts Coming....

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My opinion is that Propellerhead REASON needs a complete rewrite!
P.S: people should stop saying "No it won't happen" when referring to a complete rewrite of REASON. I have 3 letters for ya....VST
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:53 pm

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dioxide
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10 Aug 2016

Interesting. Seems to be the first of their Snapins as a RE:
http://kilohearts.com/products/bitcrush

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Exactly. They've said in the past that they would port them to Reason.
My opinion is that Propellerhead REASON needs a complete rewrite!
P.S: people should stop saying "No it won't happen" when referring to a complete rewrite of REASON. I have 3 letters for ya....VST
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:53 pm

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I've got my bitcrushing needs really well handled with Decimort and Resampler, but I'm always happy to see more REs in the shop!
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:idea:
My opinion is that Propellerhead REASON needs a complete rewrite!
P.S: people should stop saying "No it won't happen" when referring to a complete rewrite of REASON. I have 3 letters for ya....VST
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:53 pm

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dioxide
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12 Aug 2016

Awesome :D I love KH's GUIs.

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12 Aug 2016

pjeudy wrote::idea:
very un-impressed by that vid to be honest :redface:

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12 Aug 2016

What is this RE? Is it literally just a tape stop effect? (That's all I'm getting from the video).

The GUI looks great with the cassette tapes. But hopefully it does more than just tape stops.

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Faastwalker wrote:What is this RE? Is it literally just a tape stop effect? (That's all I'm getting from the video).

The GUI looks great with the cassette tapes. But hopefully it does more than just tape stops.
It's Tape Stop and it's another one of their 'snapins' being made into a Rack Extension. You can check it out on their site. You get independent control over start and stop times as well as the curve. It also sounds great :)

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joeyluck wrote:
Faastwalker wrote:What is this RE? Is it literally just a tape stop effect? (That's all I'm getting from the video).

The GUI looks great with the cassette tapes. But hopefully it does more than just tape stops.
It's Tape Stop and it's another one of their 'snapins' being made into a Rack Extension. You can check it out on their site. You get independent control over start and stop times as well as the curve. It also sounds great :)
https://kilohearts.com/products/tape_stop

I'm almost tempted to get it, whatever it does, just to have those little cassette tape animations in the rack :thumbs_up: But if it has CV control over the start / stop and maybe tape speed it could be very interesting. I'm thinking Boards of Canada style subtle pitch modulation effects.


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joeyluck wrote:Here's a fun video of it being used
Joeyluck,are you setting people up for dis-appointment here-- do you really expect this to work exactly the same as shown in video?
lol. close is not really close enough to 'win' in my book.. re's to date,are not showing the 'advertised' potentials of product launch,or are they really??
I had much much higher hopes for the extensions.... bleh. :thumbs_up: :thumbs_down: :thumbs_down: :shock:

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joeyluck wrote:Here's a fun video of it being used creatively in a buildup sweep
Hmm, he uses a lot more than the prospective RE.

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Yeah it would be cool to have Snap Heap (as shown in that video) or Multipass... But you can do CV modulation and automation galore within Reason. And if we are considering that kiloHearts ends up porting many more or all snapins, then you might see the other snapins featured in the video available for the Reason rack.

Keep in mind that the snapins, which can also be used as regular VST/AU. They are fantastic on their own. But if you want to use them together and modulate different parameters, you can certainly work with them similarly inside Reason.

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Stranger. wrote:
joeyluck wrote:Here's a fun video of it being used
Joeyluck,are you setting people up for dis-appointment here-- do you really expect this to work exactly the same as shown in video?
lol. close is not really close enough to 'win' in my book.. re's to date,are not showing the 'advertised' potentials of product launch,or are they really??
I had much much higher hopes for the extensions.... bleh. :thumbs_up: :thumbs_down: :thumbs_down: :shock:
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joeyluck wrote:Here's a fun video of it being used creatively in a buildup sweep
Hmm, he uses a lot more than the prospective RE.
Guys all of this can pretty much be done with stock Reason devices. You have access to CV, side chaining, and automation.

Nice find Joey.

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QVprod wrote:
Nice find Joey.
Well it was an easy enough find since it's one of kiloHearts' videos :)

Anders did a great job. I really dig videos like this which explore ways to achieve effects and are willing to experiment and change course a little along the way; less scripted. I feel I learn more watching someone make creative decisions as they go versus saying, "This is precisely how this is done." I feel it helps a little more with inspiring ideas. And it's still pretty concise :thumbs_up:

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submonsterz wrote:
pjeudy wrote::idea:
very un-impressed by that vid to be honest :redface:
Tape-stop effect isn't for everyone; no shame in that. But seriously, come on - that animated cassette tape looks pretty awesome!

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Stranger. wrote:
joeyluck wrote:Here's a fun video of it being used
Joeyluck,are you setting people up for dis-appointment here-- do you really expect this to work exactly the same as shown in video?
lol. close is not really close enough to 'win' in my book.. re's to date,are not showing the 'advertised' potentials of product launch,or are they really??
I had much much higher hopes for the extensions.... bleh. :thumbs_up: :thumbs_down: :thumbs_down: :shock:
He's not setting anyone up for disappointment. If Kilohearts are releasing some of their snap-ins as RE's, sign me up. We already have the vast majority of the functionality of Multipass already in Reason, so these boutique effects seems like a better option for us anyway. Judging from what they did with Tape Stop's animated cassette effect, their offerings are light years ahead of what Sugar Bytes tried to pull off.

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14 Aug 2016

Is that bitcrushing effect something like Scream 4 Digital damage type?

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Sry, i am not impressed, even by the VST thing. As there are not enough such FX already available on the market. And to all those guys celebrating the modular approach should have look into Reason.
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The Tape Stop clip isn't that elaborate but I'm sure that and the other Re's from Kilohearts will be great. They certainly (aesthetically) look great.
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I agree that a lot of what the Snapins do are already possible in Reason, often with stock devices from what I can tell (never having demoed Multipass/Snapins). However these devices are very much in the spirit of the early versions of Reason and fit well into the Reason paradigm. In a lot of ways Multipass/Snapins was Reason for VST users. VST users are only just starting to get into the kind of modular fun we've been enjoying since v1.0.

A lot of Reason users' basic needs have already been taken care of since RE came around. So we already have three freq band splitters (that I can think of) plus the MClass device. The only thing to improve now is minor, minor features and the way it is implemented, we're now at the stage of improvement and evolution rather than revolution. I'm assuming that Kiloheartz are going to include a RE Splitter if they are porting all the individual Snapins. You definitely don't need another splitter, but if they introduce one with a FFT display I think a lot of people would go for that.

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Which other REs do tape stop?

https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/glitch-effect/
https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/ ... ereffects/

I don't own either of these and I think I prefer the idea of KH's single function device.

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dioxide wrote:Which other REs do tape stop?

https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/glitch-effect/
https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/ ... ereffects/

I don't own either of these and I think I prefer the idea of KH's single function device.
Beatchop as well.

https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/ ... me-slicer/

And the Buffre Beat Repeater.

https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/ ... -repeater/
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Creativemind wrote:And the Buffre Beat Repeater.
I can't get Buffre to do a good tape stop. The pitch stays constant I think, I can't get the pitch to bend.

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