Makes sense in that regard.
Hows does everyone else feel about the price point?
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It is what I meant... Seeing as the multiband comp out at the same time is less expensive. But I also feel bad mentioning price point as I know nothing of the work, effort, quality that has gone into it.
It's just for me having many comps incl. the red rock for 39 it has a lot to do... And at this pricepoint can't entice me unless everyone starts raving about it. And I have to try for myself.
It's just for me having many comps incl. the red rock for 39 it has a lot to do... And at this pricepoint can't entice me unless everyone starts raving about it. And I have to try for myself.
Now, it's in my rack and I'm really happy with that RE
have often wondered about this one, but as i dont trial devices because of a bad past track record with authorizer i am also relying on rave reviews from other forum members whose opinions i respect.. it always makes me a little sad to see certain products being over looked like this etc. makes me wonder if it was bad timing , price point or just the fact that basement dsp have arrived a little late to he party and everybody is already fully stocked with various compressors ? would love to hear some more in depth comparisons , maybe we are all missing out on a hidden gem here ?
Could you describe what you like about the compressor.Shokstar wrote:Now, it's in my rack and I'm really happy with that RE
Would be interesting.
Just my own personal note on pricing, for me, on basic devices like this once you get above £25 I have to see something a little more in it. When it's a fairly crowded market place, like the compressor one is getting, I need it to do something the other devices I have don't, not that I'm a compressor whore or expert. I dont buy in too much on this 'characteristic' thing as it's meaningless to 99.9999999% of listeners. So, is this the punchiest/fattest/most transparent? Ive never thought I needed a Time Scale dial - convince me.
I have now 13 different Compressors for Reason and all of them are sounding different.riemac wrote:Could you describe what you like about the compressor.Shokstar wrote:Now, it's in my rack and I'm really happy with that RE
Would be interesting.
What I like on this comp is, it´s making your sound fatter than before on the same level Output. the time scale is a nice help for changing the sound character of the Comp. a highlight is the attack time it´s working under 1ms and that´s cool for me to use it on Arp sounds only what I wish is a shorter Release time like down to 1ms.
take a look at the screenshot, it´s an A/B test that shows you well what this comp can do for your dynamics:
DROPBOX SCREENSHOT: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wikjflz900sij ... 7.png?dl=0
and here is a A/B Sound example The first 4 bars are uncompressed and the other 4 bars are compressed. The screenshot will show you the changes of the dynamic range at the same Level-Output based on the peak. The first VAC-6 is Showing you the origin Level-Input to the compressor and the 2nd VAC-6 is showing the Sound after it was compressed by the Lotus-Comp, the same for the Loudness-Meter
The VAC-6 in High-Res. is showing you well how the Transient was before and after compression.
Sound Example:
Thank you Shokstar for the detailed description. I've always wondered if the good rating in the shop is for real or only a result of very little scores.Shokstar wrote:I have now 13 different Compressors for Reason and all of them are sounding different.riemac wrote:Could you describe what you like about the compressor.Shokstar wrote:Now, it's in my rack and I'm really happy with that RE
Would be interesting.
What I like on this comp is, it´s making your sound fatter than before on the same level Output. the time scale is a nice help for changing the sound character of the Comp. a highlight is the attack time it´s working under 1ms and that´s cool for me to use it on Arp sounds only what I wish is a shorter Release time like down to 1ms.
take a look at the screenshot, it´s an A/B test that shows you well what this comp can do for your dynamics:
DROPBOX SCREENSHOT: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wikjflz900sij ... 7.png?dl=0
and here is a A/B Sound example The first 4 bars are uncompressed and the other 4 bars are compressed. The screenshot will show you the changes of the dynamic range at the same Level-Output based on the peak. The first VAC-6 is Showing you the origin Level-Input to the compressor and the 2nd VAC-6 is showing the Sound after it was compressed by the Lotus-Comp, the same for the Loudness-Meter
The VAC-6 in High-Res. is showing you well how the Transient was before and after compression.
Sound Example:
But now I have to test the Lotus compressor for my self.
I guess I need to look at VAC-6 as well.
B sounds louder to me - is that intentional?Shokstar wrote:I have now 13 different Compressors for Reason and all of them are sounding different.riemac wrote:Could you describe what you like about the compressor.Shokstar wrote:Now, it's in my rack and I'm really happy with that RE
Would be interesting.
What I like on this comp is, it´s making your sound fatter than before on the same level Output. the time scale is a nice help for changing the sound character of the Comp. a highlight is the attack time it´s working under 1ms and that´s cool for me to use it on Arp sounds only what I wish is a shorter Release time like down to 1ms.
take a look at the screenshot, it´s an A/B test that shows you well what this comp can do for your dynamics:
DROPBOX SCREENSHOT: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wikjflz900sij ... 7.png?dl=0
and here is a A/B Sound example The first 4 bars are uncompressed and the other 4 bars are compressed. The screenshot will show you the changes of the dynamic range at the same Level-Output based on the peak. The first VAC-6 is Showing you the origin Level-Input to the compressor and the 2nd VAC-6 is showing the Sound after it was compressed by the Lotus-Comp, the same for the Loudness-Meter
The VAC-6 in High-Res. is showing you well how the Transient was before and after compression.
Sound Example:
In tests like your A/B example I find it more helpful if the processed sound doesn't sound louder than the pre-processed sound. It's well accepted that louder will ALWAYS sound better - I've fooled other engineers by having them listen to two examples with one of them 0.5 or 1 dB louder, and everyone chooses the louder one and some even describe all these amazing qualities the louder one posses…
In fact, in order to not fool myself, if I choose the processed version I'll go out of my way to lower it's level a dB or so and repeat the test just to be SURE loudness isn't fooling me. It helps me to hear the actual differences beyond just loudness. And My loudness I don't mean peak level or even VU level - I just mean to adjust by ear!
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B is louder because it has a different dynamic range like you can see on the attached screenshot link. I don´t like to mix by ear while I´m using Headphones.selig wrote:B sounds louder to me - is that intentional?Shokstar wrote:I have now 13 different Compressors for Reason and all of them are sounding different.riemac wrote:Could you describe what you like about the compressor.Shokstar wrote:Now, it's in my rack and I'm really happy with that RE
Would be interesting.
What I like on this comp is, it´s making your sound fatter than before on the same level Output. the time scale is a nice help for changing the sound character of the Comp. a highlight is the attack time it´s working under 1ms and that´s cool for me to use it on Arp sounds only what I wish is a shorter Release time like down to 1ms.
take a look at the screenshot, it´s an A/B test that shows you well what this comp can do for your dynamics:
DROPBOX SCREENSHOT: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wikjflz900sij ... 7.png?dl=0
and here is a A/B Sound example The first 4 bars are uncompressed and the other 4 bars are compressed. The screenshot will show you the changes of the dynamic range at the same Level-Output based on the peak. The first VAC-6 is Showing you the origin Level-Input to the compressor and the 2nd VAC-6 is showing the Sound after it was compressed by the Lotus-Comp, the same for the Loudness-Meter
The VAC-6 in High-Res. is showing you well how the Transient was before and after compression.
Sound Example:
In tests like your A/B example I find it more helpful if the processed sound doesn't sound louder than the pre-processed sound. It's well accepted that louder will ALWAYS sound better - I've fooled other engineers by having them listen to two examples with one of them 0.5 or 1 dB louder, and everyone chooses the louder one and some even describe all these amazing qualities the louder one posses…
In fact, in order to not fool myself, if I choose the processed version I'll go out of my way to lower it's level a dB or so and repeat the test just to be SURE loudness isn't fooling me. It helps me to hear the actual differences beyond just loudness. And My loudness I don't mean peak level or even VU level - I just mean to adjust by ear!
it wasn´t intentional because I think it´s the character of this Comp, it´s a loud maker and for my personal taste good for EDM music.
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