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Technosphere
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02 Aug 2015

I want a huge eurorack. The modules that's out on the market are crazy. But it is to expensive to start collecting, I know I would end up buying eurorack for thousand of $ in a short period of time, which isn't a good idea. Something that have crossed my mind is why it isn't any software equals? Reason would be the perfect platform to do this best due it's CV capabilities. I am pretty sure that great, good looking, eurorack clones would sell pretty good. Atleast it would attract interest for new potential customers to Reason and the RE format that are addicted and already using Eurorack. The current interest in Eurorack is huge and my impressions is that the sales for these modules are going pretty well. I know there are some basic out for Reason, and those are great. But, i would like to see the more advance stuff in the Reason Rack. Make Noise, Intellijel, Mutable Instruments are a couple of developers I would love to see some RE clones from in the rack. Sequencers, Low Pass Gates, Various utilities etc is something I would like to see. I would love to see a clone of Intellijel Metropolis (which is a clone/inspired of Roland 100m M185 sequencer), Make Noise Optomix (Low pass gate) and Make Noise Rene.

Any developer that's up for the task? :puf_bigsmile:

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Arrant
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02 Aug 2015

This is something I've really wanted out of Reason for a long time as well. It's come some way in terms of all the CV devices especially and a few devices like the Blamsoft system etc. It's nowhere near a hardware modular though, not in terms of sound and not in terms of the pure joy of experimentation you get with analog electronics. One factor may also be the way CV and audio interconnects in the hardware that Reason just can't do due to the limited resolution of CV signals.
I can confidently state this as I bit the bullet just a few months ago and bought a small modular setup with a few modules. It sounds absolutely gob smacking amazing! And you're not wrong, when you take that step the module hunger is going to consume your being and cost you thousands of $$$ for sure. And I'm not at all sure your music is going to impove from it ;) It's certainly not going to replace your antidotes or your thors.

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Benedict
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02 Aug 2015

Technically Thor can cover most things you may do with a modular. Of course you are right about processing rates causing differences in the sound. That said tho I also think that once a mix is made your fans are unlikely to know the difference. When I tested a piece with some Moog Slim Phatty sounds, no one got the Moog sounds right. They all chose Thor.



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Faastwalker
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02 Aug 2015

Technosphere wrote:I want a huge eurorack. The modules that's out on the market are crazy. But it is to expensive to start collecting, I know I would end up buying eurorack for thousand of $ in a short period of time, which isn't a good idea. Something that have crossed my mind is why it isn't any software equals? Reason would be the perfect platform to do this best due it's CV capabilities. I am pretty sure that great, good looking, eurorack clones would sell pretty good. Atleast it would attract interest for new potential customers to Reason and the RE format that are addicted and already using Eurorack. The current interest in Eurorack is huge and my impressions is that the sales for these modules are going pretty well. I know there are some basic out for Reason, and those are great. But, i would like to see the more advance stuff in the Reason Rack. Make Noise, Intellijel, Mutable Instruments are a couple of developers I would love to see some RE clones from in the rack. Sequencers, Low Pass Gates, Various utilities etc is something I would like to see. I would love to see a clone of Intellijel Metropolis (which is a clone/inspired of Roland 100m M185 sequencer), Make Noise Optomix (Low pass gate) and Make Noise Rene.

Any developer that's up for the task? :puf_bigsmile:
I'm so with you. 100% of the way. Reason seems like the perfect environment for this. But Eurorack style modules have not really taken off. I guess it's still a niche market despite the explosion of Eurorack & the revival of the interest in modular systems. The Chronologists were making some very Euroack style devices, all of which were just $9. But they seem to have fallen off the radar. Hamu has some interesting devices as do Quadelectra, JP & of course the Blamsoft modular devices. But I'm with you. I'd love to see devices inspired by modular components that exist in Eurorack World. It would be a great way to explore this World without the never ending expense (potentially) of Eurorack hardware.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reason-C ... 893?ref=hl

https://shop.propellerheads.se/browse/? ... onologists
https://shop.propellerheads.se/browse/?q=Hamu
https://shop.propellerheads.se/browse/? ... &view=list
https://shop.propellerheads.se/browse/? ... &view=grid
https://shop.propellerheads.se/browse/?q=blamsoft

etc ....

but what we'd love to see is more of this sort of stuff;

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/b ... der=newest

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/b ... der=newest

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/b ... der=newest

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Dante
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02 Aug 2015

Alternatively there is Scope Modular. You do need additional DSP hardware (Scope XITE-1, XITE-1D or 2nd Hand PCI Cards) but it would be a lot cheaper and space efficient to get this rather than EuroRack, plus being DSP it doesn't use host (Reason) CPU.

http://sonic-core.net/joomla.soniccore/ ... 27&lang=us

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Olivier
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03 Aug 2015

i've also invested into a small analog and modular setup. And i'm sure its going to grow over the coming years.
I think there are some features in there that i do miss in the reason rack. Some devices however come pretty close. However i'm not looking to build a eurorack inside of reason. It sure would be cool to have, but i don't think for me it would ever replace the real world thing. The reason for this is the feel i get when controlling it.

As it is now for me, controlling Reason through midi controllers just doesn't feel as musical as doing this on analog hardware. I know this is probably extremely subjective but i'm fine with that. If thats what works better for me then so be it :P
Its subtle but i feel its the difference between controlling an instrument and playing an instrument.
One of the great things of the analog hardware i currently have (various eurorack, Arturia, Moog, Korg) is how sensitive they are to operate. I love that. i haven't yet been able to come close to that with Reason. Would reason have 14 bit midi support it may well be different.

Don't get me wrong, i would very much welcome more RE's analog to real world modules into the rack. I'm just betting that because the market is so abyssmally small we won't see many of them.
I've settled for the best of both worlds. Reason has great potential to work together with eurorack through smart CV interfacing. ( Expert Sleepers ES3/ES6 :D ) I can work around what i'm missing in the rack. Thats what i'm betting on to get me further.

I guess the TL/DR version of all of this is, that untill the actual controlling of the modular stuff in Reason through (midi) control devices gets on-par with actual analog devices, i'm betting on analog devices.
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eXode
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03 Aug 2015

I think that the market for individual modules is too small. Even if this might defeat the purpose of a modular, a complete little system with i.e. 1 x OSC/LFO, FILTER, EG, AND AMP that allow for audio rate modulation internally might be a better approach, esp if you make the system with Diva/Monark style detail of simulation and optional audio inputs/outputs for audio rate modulation between units.

michaelmoog
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03 Aug 2015

there is a modular synthesizer rack exstention developed by OCHEN K. its pretty intense, but it really does the trick, especially if you have a great controller to fuck with it. also combined with the juggery pokery AMMO 1200BR, it becomes endless on what you can do with it.
but this and hardware, and the two of them are completely different animals.
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