I have done the unthinkable: I bought Ableton Live Lite

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Post 22 Feb 2021

PhillipOrdonez wrote: โ†‘
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guitfnky wrote: โ†‘
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I thought Redrum had 10 channels, no? havenโ€™t used it in a while, I guess.
It does. But the midi track handles the track for one channel too. So you need 9 additional tracks.
ah, right, that makes sense. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

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Post 22 Feb 2021

stp2015 wrote: โ†‘
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No idea how many tracks does lite have available. If it has 10 tracks, then yes, you can have all the tracks available in lite, it would be one midi tracks and 9 audio tracks...
Lite has 8 tracks (+ 2 send returns + one master track)
Intro has 16 tracks (+ 2 send returns + one master track)
Ouch, even 16 sounds very limited to me. Can't imagine having only 8 tracks ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
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Post 23 Feb 2021

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22 Feb 2021
I got Live Lite 10 for free with my MPC Live 2. Right now I can upgrade to Live 10 Standard (and get 11 Standard free) for $295 USD. It's really tempting, for sure. That offer ends tonight though.

Decisions, decisions... :lol:
Meh, I passed. Not in the mood to commit to Live 11 Standard just yet, though $295 was tempting. Maybe if they have a flash sale I'll pick it up 11 in the future (and by that time the point releases will have addressed the inevitable bugs that'll appear now that 11 proper has launched today). :lol:

I'll admit: Live is becoming more and more attractive as an option as the years go on. Reason 12 better knock it out of the park or my entire workflow may be changing.
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Post 23 Feb 2021

PhillipOrdonez wrote: โ†‘
22 Feb 2021
stp2015 wrote: โ†‘
22 Feb 2021


Lite has 8 tracks (+ 2 send returns + one master track)
Intro has 16 tracks (+ 2 send returns + one master track)
Ouch, even 16 sounds very limited to me. Can't imagine having only 8 tracks ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
Yeah, 8 is definitely very little, just enough to get you hooked :D

I think 16 is sufficient for me at this point. Drum racks let you put separate inserts and send levels on each sound, and you can do a lot of separate processing within the RRP before feeding a mix to a single track in Live.

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Post 23 Feb 2021

stp2015 wrote: โ†‘
23 Feb 2021
PhillipOrdonez wrote: โ†‘
22 Feb 2021


Ouch, even 16 sounds very limited to me. Can't imagine having only 8 tracks ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
Yeah, 8 is definitely very little, just enough to get you hooked :D

I think 16 is sufficient for me at this point. Drum racks let you put separate inserts and send levels on each sound, and you can do a lot of separate processing within the RRP before feeding a mix to a single track in Live.
True, you can get away with a lot on one track with drum rack and the RRP. I would feel limited though because I wouldn't be able to process the mix properly with vst and would have to rely heavily on Res for that which I don't normally do. But it is definitely doable! Actually, even with just 8 tracks, if you consider the entire drum bus on one track with drum rack, one RRP with the bass bus, another RRP with the instruments bus and one for vocals and another for fxs. That's just 5 tracks on live... Hmmm ๐Ÿค”

Sounds like a fun challenge ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Post 23 Feb 2021

Let's see how far I will get with the 16 tracks.

It seems quite likely right now that I will get the Reason 12 update, maybe one or two more players on sale, and then I will call probably it quits for now. Of course, I might buy back in at Reason 14 or 15, you never know ;-)

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Post 24 Feb 2021

stp2015 wrote: โ†‘
23 Feb 2021
Let's see how far I will get with the 16 tracks.

It seems quite likely right now that I will get the Reason 12 update, maybe one or two more players on sale, and then I will call probably it quits for now. Of course, I might buy back in at Reason 14 or 15, you never know ;-)
It is only quitting if you sell your license... Using whatever version of Reason you currently have, buying a few players and skipping some upgrades... If you call that "calling it quits"... We've all quit Reason years ago ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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Post 26 Feb 2021

stp2015 wrote: โ†‘
22 Feb 2021

I upgraded from lite to intro yesterday via eBay :) Turns out 8 tracks and 8 scenes are not enough. Now I have 16 tracks and a free upgrade to intro 11 coming in tomorrow :)
This Live 11 Intro upgrade got me some nice additions. 16 scenes, 16 macro knobs, macro randomisations and presets. I'm happy and have no need of Standard or Suite :D
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