Why do keyboard shortcuts suck so much?

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ejanuska
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Post 26 Jul 2020

Besides the lack of keyboard shortcuts for entering Comp, Slice and Pitch edit modes, there is another glaring omission.

No keyboard shortcut to arm recording on a track.

Hopefully I'm wrong and I just couldn't find it in the manual.

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Post 26 Jul 2020

every key has a shortcut, there's only so many buttons you can put a shortcut on.
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guitfnky
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Post 26 Jul 2020

pushedbutton wrote:
26 Jul 2020
every key has a shortcut, there's only so many buttons you can put a shortcut on.
pretty sure that’s not true, but even if it was, the same key can/should be able to do different things depending on what you’re working on. if there was a shortcut (let’s say Alt+P) to enter pitch edit mode, you wouldn’t need that shortcut available while you’ve got a MIDI track selected, so Alt-P could be used for something else.

putting that in the perspective of the entire DAW, there’s the opportunity for FAR more shortcuts than just the keys you see on the keyboard. other DAWs take great advantage of this.

but even setting that aside, simply giving us the ability to customize our own shortcuts would help immensely.

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Post 26 Jul 2020

guitfnky wrote:
26 Jul 2020
pushedbutton wrote:
26 Jul 2020
every key has a shortcut, there's only so many buttons you can put a shortcut on.
pretty sure that’s not true, but even if it was, the same key can/should be able to do different things depending on what you’re working on. if there was a shortcut (let’s say Alt+P) to enter pitch edit mode, you wouldn’t need that shortcut available while you’ve got a MIDI track selected, so Alt-P could be used for something else.

putting that in the perspective of the entire DAW, there’s the opportunity for FAR more shortcuts than just the keys you see on the keyboard. other DAWs take great advantage of this.

but even setting that aside, simply giving us the ability to customize our own shortcuts would help immensely.
This would be a blessing for control surfaces also .

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Post 26 Jul 2020

https://a.phcdn.se/Reason11/Manuals/Rea ... mmands.pdf
I think they do quite a good job with key commands.
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TheDragonborg
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Post 26 Jul 2020

Only shortcuts that I really use are cut, copy, and paste.

DaveyG
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Post 26 Jul 2020

If only someone, somewhere had ever thought of user-assignable shortcuts. Oh wait. They did. In almost everything except Reason!

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Post 26 Jul 2020

pushedbutton wrote:
26 Jul 2020
https://a.phcdn.se/Reason11/Manuals/Rea ... mmands.pdf
I think they do quite a good job with key commands.
yep, I looked it up. obviously there’s still lots of room for improvement, or people wouldn’t be complaining.

I’ve barely used it so far, but Reaper doesn’t just let you customize your own key commands, it also lets you create custom actions that combine multiple actions into a single key command. not saying Reason necessarily needs to go that far, but it definitely could be a lot better in the shortcuts department, if they wanted it to be.

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Post 26 Jul 2020

Yeah I made a thread last year on the amount of shortcuts missing like one's to select all clips on a track, move clips up and down a track, slice by song position pointer, put the end marker a certain distance after the last clip etc
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Post 28 Jul 2020

What is the new R11 shortcut for going up / down octave in sequencer? I thought that was a new feature but can’t find it in manual.

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Post 28 Jul 2020

teddymcw wrote:
28 Jul 2020
What is the new R11 shortcut for going up / down octave in sequencer? I thought that was a new feature but can’t find it in manual.
Control + Shift + Arrow up/down

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Post 28 Jul 2020

aeox wrote:
28 Jul 2020
teddymcw wrote:
28 Jul 2020
What is the new R11 shortcut for going up / down octave in sequencer? I thought that was a new feature but can’t find it in manual.
Control + Shift + Arrow up/down
TY! Still looking forward to hearing some of your deepmind music later on btw :)

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Post 28 Jul 2020

teddymcw wrote:
28 Jul 2020
aeox wrote:
28 Jul 2020


Control + Shift + Arrow up/down
TY! Still looking forward to hearing some of your deepmind music later on btw :)
Everything made with deepmind12 only??

Challenge accepted!

Really.. this could take some time.

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Post 28 Jul 2020

aeox wrote:
28 Jul 2020
teddymcw wrote:
28 Jul 2020


TY! Still looking forward to hearing some of your deepmind music later on btw :)
Everything made with deepmind12 only??

Challenge accepted!

Really.. this could take some time.
oooh, I got a Deepmind 6 a couple of months ago—such an amazing piece of gear. now I just need to learn how to use it. 😂

I’ll keep an eye out for your project. would love to hear how it turns out.

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Post 28 Jul 2020

Reason’s lack of keyboard shortcuts is pathetic and embarrassing.

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Spaceship wrote:
28 Jul 2020
Reason’s lack of keyboard shortcuts is pathetic and embarrassing.
Try to rephrase that in a constructive way.
For example, rather than saying 'That's the dumbest, most pointless post I've seen all day.' I might choose to say something like 'Hey, I'm glad you're invested in this topic, how do you think the situation could be improved without compromising the strong set of shortcuts and key commands that we already use?'
It's very easy to tear things down but building things up takes some effort.
There is no 'lack of keyboard shortcuts', even the numpad has unique functions.
It's not like they don't exist, i think some would like them changing to another function.
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