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10 May 2018

Really enjoying 10.1 and the new players! And it's super exciting to hear from PH directly about their work on VST implementation, and what I can only assume is gonna be an exciting year for us cable addicts. So with that said, working with Reason literally every day, these are the things I find myself wanting most of all, based on the amount of time I spend compensating for their absence. Mostly pretty boring stuff, and by no means a moaning post. Just musing on some possibilities ;)

Workflow:

Folder tracks in the sequencer
Marker tracks
Sort devices by category/tags/filters
Real time, indexed search (results appear as you type)
Full player controls for audio preview in browser (for jumping around long samples)
Option to auto-synchronise device order between all three views
Select range/all between markers, for tall projects
Jump to rack/mixer buttons in sequencer
**Double click to input values

Rack & Devices:

Right click any sample and "create as" (Grain, NN, etc.)
Custom default states for devices
Double click socket to start connection, double click destination to complete it
Save with connected devices (allowing for recalling a device + mix channels)

Interface and visual:

Pop out VST style editor for racks in the sequencer
Mixer follows colour scheme
Colour picker for tracks and parts

MIDI:

Multi-channel support for VSTs
MIDI note chase
MIDI note preview on arrow key nudge
Legato should extend the last note in a clip to the end of the clip container
Mute notes, not just clips
Shortcut for nudging by octave
A pre-record buffer to catch the first note I play (always have to hit a bit late)
Compensation for negative track slide so the first note isn't skipped while cycling
A new snap/grid option tied to global shuffle
Moving multiple selected notes should only preview the first note you grab, not the entire cluster
**Legato should be possible when using ReGroove/shuffle/randomisation

Audio:

Cross fade for audio clips
Drag and drop from sequencer to devices
Intelligent handling of stacked takes (currently it will choose the last second I record before I have time to drop out, and I have to go into the clip and select the next take down)

Misc:

Option to disable synch for devices I delete from the authorizer
Custom content and RE locations upon install

Slightly over-ambitious requests:

Per note articulation (assign key switched to note attributes which can be selected from a drop down in the key editor, similar to Expression Maps)
A per-device block/pattern system (possibly slightly redundant depending on what can be done with players!)
Track freeze (I've put this here as it would require some way to bounce outgoing CV to preserve interaction with connected devices)
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10 May 2018

Yes, the really nessesary improvements do not seem to be on top of the Prop's list. The ability to load samples into Europa seems to sell better than all the improvements listed above. And releasing a player RE SDK so that other people can develop player REs is simply ingenious: just update the SDK and other people do the job and sell their player REs in the Prop's shop. I'm not sure where Reason is going to go in the future. Currently I'm again keeping an eye on other DAWs that do a better job here.

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10 May 2018

that's an excellent list. I'd add auto punch-in/punch-out. I love the MIDI buffer to capture your first note if you play slightly ahead of the beat; it would be great if they could do that for audio as well. so, you hit record, with a pre-roll, and it's actually already recording, so if you happen to start a bit early, you can just adjust the start of the clip.

there are a bunch of things I think they could do to improve Blocks, but of course I can't think of any of them right now. :lol:
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guitfnky wrote:
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that's an excellent list. I'd add auto punch-in/punch-out. I love the MIDI buffer to capture your first note if you play slightly ahead of the beat; it would be great if they could do that for audio as well. so, you hit record, with a pre-roll, and it's actually already recording, so if you happen to start a bit early, you can just adjust the start of the clip.

there are a bunch of things I think they could do to improve Blocks, but of course I can't think of any of them right now. :lol:
Korg Kronos has this MIDI capuring feature in it's sequencer.

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guitfnky wrote:
10 May 2018
that's an excellent list. I'd add auto punch-in/punch-out. I love the MIDI buffer to capture your first note if you play slightly ahead of the beat; it would be great if they could do that for audio as well. so, you hit record, with a pre-roll, and it's actually already recording, so if you happen to start a bit early, you can just adjust the start of the clip.

there are a bunch of things I think they could do to improve Blocks, but of course I can't think of any of them right now. :lol:
Cubase apparently has something similar? Like an "always recording" kinda thing but I never figured out how to work it! The only thing I'd like to see in Blocks is the ability to offset the start position, so you could mix and match between different blocks within a single section while maintaining the song position, if that makes sense!

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chimp_spanner wrote:
10 May 2018
guitfnky wrote:
10 May 2018
that's an excellent list. I'd add auto punch-in/punch-out. I love the MIDI buffer to capture your first note if you play slightly ahead of the beat; it would be great if they could do that for audio as well. so, you hit record, with a pre-roll, and it's actually already recording, so if you happen to start a bit early, you can just adjust the start of the clip.

there are a bunch of things I think they could do to improve Blocks, but of course I can't think of any of them right now. :lol:
Cubase apparently has something similar? Like an "always recording" kinda thing but I never figured out how to work it! The only thing I'd like to see in Blocks is the ability to offset the start position, so you could mix and match between different blocks within a single section while maintaining the song position, if that makes sense!
You can't stack multiple blocks at the same point in time, but you can use the cut tool or drag the left edge inwards to have a block start at another point rather than its beginning. That can be useful for quickly slicing up chord progressions into new ones.
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esselfortium wrote:
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Cubase apparently has something similar? Like an "always recording" kinda thing but I never figured out how to work it! The only thing I'd like to see in Blocks is the ability to offset the start position, so you could mix and match between different blocks within a single section while maintaining the song position, if that makes sense!
You can't stack multiple blocks at the same point in time, but you can use the cut tool or drag the left edge inwards to have a block start at another point rather than its beginning. That can be useful for quickly slicing up chord progressions into new ones.
Yeah this is true. In fact now that I think about it you can kinda emulate this already. If you draw in 4 bars of a block and chop out just the 3rd bar, you can move that around and it'll play that bar, at least if I recall correctly. So maybe strike that one off the list. Or just add an extra entry to the info line at the top for start position or something.

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10 May 2018

Nice list! Can you imagine if it was all implemented in one upgrade? o_0!!

re: the waveform previewer in the browser - It'd be nice to highlight a section of that long waveform and drag the condensed file into the project

I'd be happy with:
auto punch
midi comp/alt takes
right click midi file in sequencer and export

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10 May 2018

Excellent list! Ableton should acquire Propellerhead Software because Live has these things already 🤭

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chimp_spanner wrote:
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esselfortium wrote:
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You can't stack multiple blocks at the same point in time, but you can use the cut tool or drag the left edge inwards to have a block start at another point rather than its beginning. That can be useful for quickly slicing up chord progressions into new ones.
Yeah this is true. In fact now that I think about it you can kinda emulate this already. If you draw in 4 bars of a block and chop out just the 3rd bar, you can move that around and it'll play that bar, at least if I recall correctly. So maybe strike that one off the list. Or just add an extra entry to the info line at the top for start position or something.
Great list, btw! Lots of things on there I would love to see. Track freeze, expression maps, octave nudge shortcut, prerecord buffer, custom default patches, select-entire-column-at-once, negative track slide compensation (or just midi note chase), visual grid layouts for shuffle, more ways to make cable connections.... yeah, that's the good stuff.

Also, if track freeze was implemented but wasn't compatible with CV usage, it'd still be really helpful. (Though it really ought to be possible to freeze CV outputs alongside the audio, and bake any CV-input modulation into the audio render!)
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11 May 2018

"Double click socket to start connection, double click destination to complete it"
- excellent idea! Yes yes yes. Or Alt-click or some other modifier (anyone who's ever used the polygonal lasso tool in Photoshop knows there's a fine but frustrating line between a double-click and two single-clicks, although that shouldn't be a problem in this context.)

Track freeze, implemented with or without CV. If it's not practical for now to include CV, you could select between "Freeze all devices before first CV input" and "Freeze (ignore CV)". But as Sarah says, I see no reason why you couldn't just include CV input in the render, apart from frozen and unfrozen tracks sharing a CV signal that has a random element.

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11 May 2018

Some glitch and grain effects that are closer to what can be done in Max/MSP groovebox type apps like 2020. I own most of the glitch and granular effects REs. I know how to use them very well. They don't work how I'd like them to. I've wired them every which way, the closest I can get is by using the Ochen K. Glitch RE. Works well, not enough time division, sometimes faster than 64 chops is good. Still, had to connect that up in a roundabout fashion. SB Slicer is close, too, but not close enough.

I'd like for it to be a one-stop RE with granular & chopping, timed but random, with no reason to wire it in the back, unless it's for extra modulation. The chopping should be audio only, like a tremolo on steroids and PCP. Strong and unpredictable. It doesn't need reverse, it doesn't need delay (granular portion might). Glitch is so close, but it's either too much or none at all, so more variation options on effect volume level and pass-thru would be great.

I don't need suggestions or how-to's. I've been working in Reason since v2, and I work in Max/MSP when I'm not working in Reason. The RE's for glitch and granular do every other type of glitch and granular style, but not the one I'm after :)


OK, scratch that - I found it. Had to be done with CV via the Propulsion sequencer, but it's pretty much spot on. Will need to hone it for greater changes, but so far, it's working real nice.



I'd like to keep this in Reason, because it's such a great program to sequence in.
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11 May 2018

An interesting feature I found in Bitwig: Moving a knob with the left mouse button while holding the shift key lets you make finer adjustments (ok, Reason can do that too), but moving a knob with both mouse buttons while holding the shift key lets you make much more finer adjustments. A handy nice little featureI would like to see in Reason too.

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21 May 2018

All I want is to natively sync music to video directly in reason.
Even if it was setup crudely I would welcome it.
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21 May 2018

- Being able to select individual notes in multiple clips would be nice.
- Muting individual notes in clips would be most welcomed.
- being able to print notation from reason is my wish list, I know this will most likely never happen but it's worth a try.
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22 May 2018

ltbrunt00 wrote:
21 May 2018
- being able to print notation from reason is my wish list, I know this will most likely never happen but it's worth a try.
This would lead to a followup: How detailed? I know a film score composer who uses Apple Logic, but told me that its notation "sucks". For orchestral scores he still relies on specialists such as Sibelius or Finale.

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chimp_spanner wrote:
10 May 2018
Really enjoying 10.1 and the new players! And it's super exciting to hear from PH directly about their work on VST implementation, and what I can only assume is gonna be an exciting year for us cable addicts. So with that said, working with Reason literally every day, these are the things I find myself wanting most of all, based on the amount of time I spend compensating for their absence. Mostly pretty boring stuff, and by no means a moaning post. Just musing on some possibilities ;)

Workflow:

Folder tracks in the sequencer
Marker tracks
Sort devices by category/tags/filters
Real time, indexed search (results appear as you type)
Full player controls for audio preview in browser (for jumping around long samples)
Option to auto-synchronise device order between all three views
Select range/all between markers, for tall projects
Jump to rack/mixer buttons in sequencer
**Double click to input values
I like the folder tracks idea in the sequencer but I have 2 questions about them (with not knowing a great deal about them)...apart from keeping the sequencer tidy, what other advantages do they give us and 2, wouldn't it be necassary (if nothing else but just to keep all 3 windows uniform) to have folders also for the rack and mixer?

+1 for Marker tracks. I've wanted Marker tracks for ages. Not just for labelling the track parts but also for song analysis purposes so I can label where things change / come in / drop out so if they incorporate this feature, I sure hope they add the functionality to stack them. At least 6 if not more.

+1 for the sort devices tags / filter etc and the real time indexed search. Great idea.

+1 for double click to input values and I'd also add - right click, select, "Copy Value" and right click another parameter and select, "Paste Value" too.

I also like the idea to see the mixer follow the colour scheme (there should be a check box for this included in the preferences) and I'd also like another couple of themes too. Maybe a violet / purply colour and a proper jet black one.

I love the right click and create as NN or Grain idea too.

+1 for all your Midi Editing features but would also like to add:-

Slice by grid
Joining notes (after slicing or joining from the beginning of the first note to the end of the last note if 2 or more notes are selected on the same row and no unselected notes break the chain, could do this by ctrl clicking the notes or boxing them and ctrl / j joins them like you can do with clips)
Being able to see which note you're pressing on your midi controller in the midi editor with a shading perhaps?
A drop-down menu of all midi tracks (somewhere up the top) so you can jump to a new midi track within that midi editor
Ghost notes from other tracks (editable - adjust position and length)
Remember last note length and clicking a different note length than the last pasted note length once will change the next pasted note length to that new one
Being able to adjust velocities with the pointer tool (not just the pencil)
Clicking a note again with the pencil will remove it
Chord painting (although people will probably just say use the Scales and Chords Player)
Scale modes
Colouring of notes
A nice simple clickable toggle on/off icon for the trigger notes while editing (and take that prefernce out the preferences)
A keyboard shortcut to send a note or range of notes up / down an octave and beginning or end of a clip using say shift/ ctrl left, right, up or down arrows on your QWERTY keyboard. You can record now and have a gap at the beginning of the clip where perhaps you made a mistake and deleted notes and I know you can select all with ctrl / a and quantize with ctrl / k but one further and shift / ctrl left arrow - send to beginning of clip is just missing.
Holding Right Click brings up a new Scrubber Tool (which is additional or different from the Eraser Tool) and allows you to scribble scrub out notes whilst you hover or go over notes whilst right click is held down.
Note displays on the notes and back of keyboard and these can be toggled on / off independently of each other and the notes on the back of the piano keys light up in correspondance with your midi controller key depression.

A more powerful midi editor would be something I'd love to see in 10.5 or 11.
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I sat with a guy using Ableton the other day (I haven't ever used it myself) and was amazed at how much better it's sequencer is. I'd imagined it was similar to Reason's but it's so far ahead. Not perfect but it has a wealth of useful functionality - not just time savers but things that improve the creative flow.

I don't really understand how/why Propellerhead have let Reason slip so far behind. I hope it's because they are working on a vastly improved version, but we know we won't be seeing that this year.

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Ahornberg wrote:
11 May 2018
An interesting feature I found in Bitwig: Moving a knob with the left mouse button while holding the shift key lets you make finer adjustments (ok, Reason can do that too), but moving a knob with both mouse buttons while holding the shift key lets you make much more finer adjustments. A handy nice little featureI would like to see in Reason too.
This wouldn't be needed though if Manual Parameter Inputs that has mentioned already was implemented. Nice feature though, many ways to achieve the same thing is always good.
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ltbrunt00 wrote:
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All I want is to natively sync music to video directly in reason.
Even if it was setup crudely I would welcome it.
I can't remember the names now but pretty certain there are a couple of VST's that do this.

Saying that, are they VST 3 which Reason isn't conpatible with I wonder. Think 1 I saw (if memory serves me correct) was Mac only too.
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Creativemind wrote:
23 May 2018
ltbrunt00 wrote:
21 May 2018
All I want is to natively sync music to video directly in reason.
Even if it was setup crudely I would welcome it.
I can't remember the names now but pretty certain there are a couple of VST's that do this.

Saying that, are they VST 3 which Reason isn't conpatible with I wonder. Think 1 I saw (if memory serves me correct) was Mac only too.
Searching the net now for what ever this may be.
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Creativemind wrote:
23 May 2018
Ahornberg wrote:
11 May 2018
An interesting feature I found in Bitwig: Moving a knob with the left mouse button while holding the shift key lets you make finer adjustments (ok, Reason can do that too), but moving a knob with both mouse buttons while holding the shift key lets you make much more finer adjustments. A handy nice little featureI would like to see in Reason too.
This wouldn't be needed though if Manual Parameter Inputs that has mentioned already was implemented. Nice feature though, many ways to achieve the same thing is always good.
I do a lot of tweaking knobs with the mouse while live playing. Usually I only record the audio. So for me it would be great being able to do more fine-grained paramater changes using the mouse (beneath the way to enter exact number values).

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Great list. I'd add;
- step-time MIDI entry directly into a sequencer clip (rather than using a player/plugin device)
- Scalable, zoomable UI - or even or selected devices (The Europa VST looks great when zoomed up)
- multi-track edit - eg to edit 3 or 4 drum lanes at once, or see one track while editing another

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