Both Softube Amp and BassAmp don't null when bypassed?

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Post 08 Nov 2021

Anyone have any insight as to what is going on here, is this normal?
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Post 08 Nov 2021

That Saturation/Drive devices don't null when active is exactly what one should expect I would have thought seeing the essence of them is movement.

Not nulling when Bypassed (and bypassed from where to be accurate?) is odd. Can you show your work please?
(screen recording using OBS is best so we see/hear exactly what you do - phone to screen isuseless)

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Post 08 Nov 2021

Simple set up;
Create an instrument.
Create a parallel channel.
Invert that parallel channel using say Selig gain or the invert button on the main mixer.

The two channels cancel out.

Now drag in the Amp or BassAmp as an Insert effect to one of those channels and bypass the device.

Theoretically, there should be be no change to the signal and the two channels should still cancel out.... But it doesn't. Almost like the Amps roll off the hi end even when bypassed?
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Post 08 Nov 2021

deeplink wrote:
08 Nov 2021
Simple set up;
Create an instrument.
Create a parallel channel.
Invert that parallel channel using say Selig gain or the invert button on the main mixer.

The two channels cancel out.

Now drag in the Amp or BassAmp as an Insert effect to one of those channels and bypass the device.

Theoretically, there should be be no change to the signal and the two channels should still cancel out.... But it doesn't. Almost like the Amps roll off the hi end even when bypassed?
I just tried several presets for both amps, and they cancel 100% for me when bypassed (and using the invert button on the mixer).

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Benedict
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Post 08 Nov 2021

This is why I asked if you could show us exactly what you are doing so if there is a flaw in your method, it could be explained.

Right now we have two contradictory he said-she said. A video showing exactly what you did would help us to see what you are doing and experiencing.

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Post 09 Nov 2021

Try and make sure delay compensation is on.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e36gh2siikt5w ... p.mp4?dl=0

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Post 09 Nov 2021

MarkTarlton wrote:
09 Nov 2021
Try and make sure delay compensation is on.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e36gh2siikt5w ... p.mp4?dl=0
Thanks Mark, looks like delay comp was the issue!
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Post 09 Nov 2021

Softube devices maintain a consistent latency when bypassed. This makes it possible to bypass a device and not change latency values - meaning among other things you could use a second device in bypass on a parallel channel to compensate for latency.
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