What does the 'pattern shift' knob on Alligator do?

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Jagwah
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Post 11 Aug 2019

Just like the title asks, what does this knob actually do?

If it's moving the gate pattern left and right it must be really subtle, because I can't seem to notice it.

Any ideas?



Thanks!!

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MannequinRaces
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Post 11 Aug 2019

From the manual: Shift
This will offset the pattern relative to the song playback, moving it “sideways”. The range is ±16 steps, with the step length determined by the Resolution parameter. For example, if you set Shift to -1 with Resolution at 1/16, the pat- tern will be moved one sixteenth note to the left. This means the pattern will play one sixteenth note “early” (the start of the pattern will occur a sixteenth note before the downbeat in the song).

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Post 11 Aug 2019

I like to use 2 instances to get the most of the shift feature.
It can work like a delay/slide in regroove mixer, to make more interesting rhythms:

https://we.tl/t-1agv0RXvAH
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Post 11 Aug 2019

MannequinRaces wrote:
11 Aug 2019
From the manual: Shift
This will offset the pattern relative to the song playback, moving it “sideways”. The range is ±16 steps, with the step length determined by the Resolution parameter. For example, if you set Shift to -1 with Resolution at 1/16, the pat- tern will be moved one sixteenth note to the left. This means the pattern will play one sixteenth note “early” (the start of the pattern will occur a sixteenth note before the downbeat in the song).
I know I really should have just consulted the manual, thanks.

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Post 11 Aug 2019

Jagwah wrote:
11 Aug 2019
MannequinRaces wrote:
11 Aug 2019
From the manual: Shift
This will offset the pattern relative to the song playback, moving it “sideways”. The range is ±16 steps, with the step length determined by the Resolution parameter. For example, if you set Shift to -1 with Resolution at 1/16, the pat- tern will be moved one sixteenth note to the left. This means the pattern will play one sixteenth note “early” (the start of the pattern will occur a sixteenth note before the downbeat in the song).
I know I really should have just consulted the manual, thanks.
I like to use 2 instances to get the most of the shift feature.
It can work like a delay/slide in regroove mixer, to make more interesting rhythms:

https://we.tl/t-1agv0RXvAH
¡ɹǝɥʇoɥɔɐǝ ɟo doʇ uo pǝʞɔɐʇs llɐ 'sǝɹuǝƃ ʇuǝɹǝɟɟᴉp 9 uᴉ 'sƃuos ʇuǝɹǝɟɟᴉp 9 oʇ ƃuᴉuǝʇsᴉl ɟo soɐɥɔ ƃuᴉɯlɐɔ ǝɥʇ ǝʞᴉl ƃuᴉɥʇou sᴉ ǝɹǝɥ┴

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Post 11 Aug 2019

Jagwah wrote:
11 Aug 2019
MannequinRaces wrote:
11 Aug 2019
From the manual: Shift
This will offset the pattern relative to the song playback, moving it “sideways”. The range is ±16 steps, with the step length determined by the Resolution parameter. For example, if you set Shift to -1 with Resolution at 1/16, the pat- tern will be moved one sixteenth note to the left. This means the pattern will play one sixteenth note “early” (the start of the pattern will occur a sixteenth note before the downbeat in the song).
I know I really should have just consulted the manual, thanks.
No worries. I think people sometimes forget that the stock devices are in the manual. :)

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Post 11 Aug 2019

MannequinRaces wrote:
11 Aug 2019
Jagwah wrote:
11 Aug 2019

I know I really should have just consulted the manual, thanks.
No worries. I think people sometimes forget that the stock devices are in the manual. :)
:lol:

D'you or anyone else have any examples of where shifting the gate time in this way is useful?
:reason:

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Post 12 Aug 2019

modecca wrote:
11 Aug 2019
Jagwah wrote:
11 Aug 2019

I know I really should have just consulted the manual, thanks.
I like to use 2 instances to get the most of the shift feature.
It can work like a delay/slide in regroove mixer, to make more interesting rhythms:

https://we.tl/t-1agv0RXvAH
Thanks for the examples hopefully they will help me understand it, will check them out tomorrow :)

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Post 12 Aug 2019

MannequinRaces wrote:
11 Aug 2019
Jagwah wrote:
11 Aug 2019

I know I really should have just consulted the manual, thanks.
No worries. I think people sometimes forget that the stock devices are in the manual. :)
Oh I was just being lazy and social :puf_bigsmile:

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Post 12 Aug 2019

Creativemind wrote:
11 Aug 2019
MannequinRaces wrote:
11 Aug 2019

No worries. I think people sometimes forget that the stock devices are in the manual. :)
:lol:

D'you or anyone else have any examples of where shifting the gate time in this way is useful?
See Modecca's post above, some examples there I think but haven't looked yet.

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Post 12 Aug 2019

Jagwah wrote:
12 Aug 2019
MannequinRaces wrote:
11 Aug 2019

No worries. I think people sometimes forget that the stock devices are in the manual. :)
Oh I was just being lazy and social :puf_bigsmile:
Nothing wrong with that. I haven’t touched Alligator in awhile so I actually played around with it some last night and got some nice results!

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Post 13 Aug 2019

OK I think I know why I struggled with this now. When set to pattern zero the shift knob has no effect? Can someone confirm?

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Post 13 Aug 2019

For anyone reading this thread here is a cool patch Selig made which can be used instead of alligator's Initialized Patch - which colours your sound drastically. This patch doesn't add any colour, open up the gate and your sound is clear as a bell.
Flat Gator.zip


modecca wrote:
11 Aug 2019
I like to use 2 instances to get the most of the shift feature.
It can work like a delay/slide in regroove mixer, to make more interesting rhythms:
https://we.tl/t-1agv0RXvAH
These are cool patches, and they confirm it works as I expected, just not on Pattern 0 (see my post above). Thanks :)
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