Converting 14:2 ReMix EQ to SSL EQ in Reason

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selig
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23 Jun 2017

I saw a question recently asking how to convert the EQ settings in the 14:2 ReMix mixer in Reason (Improved EQ setting), and realized I could try to match them using FuzzMeasure and post the settings here. I hope some will find this useful!

First off, the ranges of the SSL EQ don't quite match the settings on the ReMix EQ, mostly on the low end (the SSL EQ doesn't go as low as the ReMix EQ. I'll post comparison frequency plots so you can see how close these settings will get you.

So where to start - I decided to plot the ReMix EQ in steps of 16, giving us a total of 8 plots for each band (4 cuts, 4 boosts). From there you can easily estimate/interpolate intermediate settings. Again, this won't give you a perfect match, but it will get you a "close enough" starting point.

So here is the data:
LOW:
ReMix Low -64
=SSL Low -19.37/40Hz
ReMix Low -48
=SSL Low -14.60/40Hz
ReMix Low -32
=SSL Low -9.84/40Hz
ReMix Low -16
=SSL Low -5.08/40Hz
ReMix Low +16
=SSL Low +5.08/40Hz
ReMix Low +32
=SSL Low +9.84/40Hz
ReMix Low +48
=SSL Low +14.60/40Hz
ReMix Low +63
=SSL Low +19.37/40Hz
HIGH:
ReMix High -64
=SSL High -20.00/13.00kHz
ReMix High -48
=SSL High -15.24/13.00kHz
ReMix High -32
=SSL High -10.60/13.00kHz
ReMix High -16
=SSL High -5.08/13.00kHz
ReMix High +16
=SSL High +5.08/13.00kHz
ReMix High +32
=SSL High +10.60/13.00kHz
ReMix High +48
=SSL High +15.24/13.00kHz
ReMix High +63
SSL High +20.00/13.00kHz
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23 Jun 2017

selig wrote:
23 Jun 2017
I saw a question recently asking how to convert the EQ settings in the 14:2 ReMix mixer in Reason (Improved EQ setting), and realized I could try to match them using FuzzMeasure and post the settings here. I hope some will find this useful!

First off, the ranges of the SSL EQ don't quite match the settings on the ReMix EQ, mostly on the low end (the SSL EQ doesn't go as low as the ReMix EQ. I'll post comparison frequency plots so you can see how close these settings will get you.

So where to start - I decided to plot the ReMix EQ in steps of 16, giving us a total of 8 plots for each band (4 cuts, 4 boosts). From there you can easily estimate/interpolate intermediate settings. Again, this won't give you a perfect match, but it will get you a "close enough" starting point.

So here is the data:
LOW:
ReMix Low -64
=SSL Low -19.37/40Hz
ReMix Low -48
=SSL Low -14.60/40Hz
ReMix Low -32
=SSL Low -9.84/40Hz
ReMix Low -16
=SSL Low -5.08/40Hz
ReMix Low +16
=SSL Low +5.08/40Hz
ReMix Low +32
=SSL Low +9.84/40Hz
ReMix Low +48
=SSL Low +14.60/40Hz
ReMix Low +63
=SSL Low +19.37/40Hz
HIGH:
ReMix High -64
=SSL High -20.00/13.00kHz
ReMix High -48
=SSL High -15.24/13.00kHz
ReMix High -32
=SSL High -10.60/13.00kHz
ReMix High -16
=SSL High -5.08/13.00kHz
ReMix High +16
=SSL High +5.08/13.00kHz
ReMix High +32
=SSL High +10.60/13.00kHz
ReMix High +48
=SSL High +15.24/13.00kHz
ReMix High +63
SSL High +20.00/13.00kHz
That's quite handy to have thanks.
But up till now rather doing the work you just did
I was just unplugging the main mixer or linked mixers and just copying them over as many times I had tracks and just plugging them into Thier own mix channels .
The 14.2 is surprisingly efficient on DSP so it didn't really make a dent on my system.
But in future I'll probally use this guide as reference as it's something as I say never bothered working out for some strange reason .
Thanks this will make things a little easier and less cluttered.
See I do give credit when due . And appreciate time spent on something I just wouldn't had bothered getting round to myself :thumbs_up:
P.s
This is worthy of a sticky me thinks.

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abeonis
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23 Jun 2017

This information comes just in time. I was wondering how to do it in a structured way. Thanks.
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dioxide
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25 Jun 2017

Fantastic work! Thanks for doing this and sharing it!

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dioxide
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25 Jun 2017

Have you considered doing the same for the original red Reason parametric EQ device?

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dioxide
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25 Jun 2017

Also, do you recall what the bug in the 14:2 mixer was that caused them to add the compatibility switch on the back? I can't remember that far back but I think perhaps it caused a phase issue? My memory fails me though.

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dioxide
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29 Jun 2017

Another older post on the same topic:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7492536

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29 Jun 2017

selig wrote:
23 Jun 2017
First off, the ranges of the SSL EQ don't quite match the settings on the ReMix EQ, mostly on the low end (the SSL EQ doesn't go as low as the ReMix EQ.
Yes. That's why I still use a Combi which uses the ReMix EQ just for the EQ.

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29 Jun 2017

By the way, I compared the positions of the mixer's sends 14: 2 and ssl in 2011.
Even the old diagram was preserved :)
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Red line for sends of channel strip, Black line for sends of Mixer 14:2.
It was very coarse measurement, just for understanding.

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