Dither is only added when you reduce bit depth. For example, once you reduce bit depth from 24 to 16 (and add dither), the only reason to add dither again would be to reduce bit depth further, which is not common at all!Voyager wrote:Noted, but the reason i ask is because the way you said that it was "another reason" why you patch the maximizer/dither after the master output that make me tilt. Do that reason is because you use fade out to your track or it's because something else ?selig wrote:Dither should ALWAYS be applied only once. The only other rule is that no changes can be made to the level after adding dither. So as long as you don't break either of these rules, dither works as intended.
Also when you say dither should always be applied once then i guess it's only when exporting after the mastering has been done and never applied if exporting post tracking or mixing, correct ?
The main reason why I put Ozone after the Master Outputs is because I'm using the Master Insert "PRE COMPRESSOR" for my side-chain filter trick. The OTHER reason is dither.
There's also the fade out issue, for which there are two schools of thought. One is that you should fade out at the mix stage, and then master with the fade in place. The possible issue here is that as you fade, the amount of limiting will change, which may or may not be something you like. If you're doing a ton of limiting this may be more of an issue. But it's also probably the way most records were faded in the early days. The other school of thought is that you should limit first, then fade out after the limiter (but before adding dither), so that the "sound" of the limiting doesn't change as you fade. This has never bothered me, so I take the first approach because it's less of a headache to setup properly! If I was to use the second approach I'd use two Ozones, with a Selig Gain between them for the fade, using the first Ozone for limiting and the second for dither. This works with other limiters too, I'm just using Ozone as an example since it's what I'm using presently.