setting velocity to same incoming value

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Post 10 Jan 2025

I am using an arturia minilab to record, but would like all incoming velocities to be set at the same value, I know you can edit the velocity later but I would rather set it to one value for certain things. How can I do this?

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Post 10 Jan 2025

You can do this with the new Note Tool.

There are other ways to do this and other tools, but Note Tool is simplest.
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Post 10 Jan 2025

Tried note tool, but it's still seeing incoming velocity's from the keyboard or controller and not filtering or setting to one set value, thanks for the suggestion

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voiceprint1 wrote:
10 Jan 2025
Tried note tool, but it's still seeing incoming velocity's from the keyboard or controller and not filtering or setting to one set value, thanks for the suggestion
This is typically done at the controller, but if not then Note Tool is all you need. Just set the Velocity section to FIXED and choose your level.
You will still record all the variations in velocity, but you will never hear them which is the point right?
It doesn't matter if the velocities that get recorded are all over the place, Note Tool prevents them from ever getting to the instrument both during recording and during playback.
Meaning there is no way for you to NOT have fixed velocities with this setup.

If for any reason you must "see" the same velocity level on the recorded notes, just hit the Send To Track button...It will automatically mute the current lane and create a new lane with the velocities fixed. It won't sound any different than before, but it would be handy for example if you needed to export the MIDI for any reason.
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Post 10 Jan 2025

not 100% sure that works, I tried it and it did not act like you said

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voiceprint1 wrote:
10 Jan 2025
not 100% sure that works, I tried it and it did not act like you said
What exactly did you tried? And how?
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voiceprint1 wrote:
10 Jan 2025
not 100% sure that works, I tried it and it did not act like you said
OK, I must have missed something then:
What instrument are you using in the rack? How familiar with Players are you?
Let’s test it with ONE instrument and ONE Player, (Note Tool) to be sure it’s clear how this is supposed to work.

It should be as simple as adding the Player to the instrument in question, setting Velocity to fixed, and you’ll get all velocities fixed at 100 (the default, can be changed to any value). Remember, you will NOT see the results in the recorded MIDI notes, but it will force all recorded velocities to be passed to the instrument fixed at 100 if you just do these few steps (above).

Let us know how this goes, if you have a moment to try it. :)
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Post 11 Jan 2025

I did try that method where you push the velocity to the track with Note Tool, it's ok, not ideal.

I have a second hand Minilab that did not have an unlock code, so I can't set the velocity like that video is showing, that would have been helpful.

If there is another way around this let me know. I am trying to setup drum parts with individual synths, but don't want to have so much variation in velocity when entering notes

thanks

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Post 11 Jan 2025

Use a Player, but put it into Direct Record mode *before* you record your keyboard performance. This will cause all the incoming notes to be recorded with the desired settings. Afterwards, you can turn the Player off and just leave it there. It'll be handy if you want to overdub.

I don't have Note Tool, but it works fine with UTL, another Player. In this image, all the velocities got printed at 90, as set in UTL, regardless of how hard I hit the keys.
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voiceprint1 wrote:
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I am trying to setup drum parts with individual synths, but don't want to have so much variation in velocity when entering notes
You could also modify your drum patches so they're not velocity sensitive, if you truly want no variation at all.

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Post 11 Jan 2025

thank you huggermugger, that works

one question, when you set the direct record does that disable the keyboard (computer), (not midi controller) from being able to enter notes, seems like you can't use both in that mode

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voiceprint1 wrote:
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thank you huggermugger, that works

one question, when you set the direct record does that disable the keyboard (computer), (not midi controller) from being able to enter notes, seems like you can't use both in that mode
I've never used computer keyboard note input, but I'm not surprised. I imagine there's a direct link between the computer keyboard and the track, whereas the incoming MIDI data from your controller has to pass thru Reason's MIDI 'brain' on the way to the track.

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voiceprint1 wrote:
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thank you huggermugger, that works

one question, when you set the direct record does that disable the keyboard (computer), (not midi controller) from being able to enter notes, seems like you can't use both in that mode
The other approach works too, the beauty of Reason is if you can’t figure out one way there’s always another. :)

Don’t get hung up on seeing the velocities in the MIDI track - the results with both methods is identical.
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Post 20 Jan 2025

thanks again, both of these methods work. One question, why does the direct record have to be turned on before setting the incoming values?

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voiceprint1 wrote:
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thanks again, both of these methods work. One question, why does the direct record have to be turned on before setting the incoming values?
It doesn't have to be on before you set the incoming values (in your Player), but it does have to be turned on before you start recording.

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huggermugger wrote:
20 Jan 2025
voiceprint1 wrote:
20 Jan 2025
thanks again, both of these methods work. One question, why does the direct record have to be turned on before setting the incoming values?
It doesn't have to be on before you set the incoming values (in your Player), but it does have to be turned on before you start recording.
Also, note that if you don’t turn it on before recording, you won’t actually hear any difference since the Player will restrict all values on playback even if it records different values to the track.

The only thing this does is affect the way the notes get recorded, since all notes will be forced to the same velocity in both cases.

It’s like putting a limiter on your mix and not seeing the effect of the waveform being limited - you can print (REC SOURCE = Direct Record) the track if you want to see the resultant waveform, but it’s not going to change the sound in any way.
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