fXpansion Geist2 authorization issues

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Loque
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29 Dec 2023

I purchased Geist2 i think quite shortly before they were bought by (t)Rolli. I just wanted to check for some updated and if i had the latest version, but my security software blocked the internet access of their autorizer.

My security software informed me, that the authorizer tried to transmit my username and password as plain text, which is an epic fail in todays times.

So, i checked the website and checked if htere are any updates for the authorizer, but since 2019 no updates, so i obviously have the latest version installed. And well, even in 2019 sending username and passwor as plain text is a crime IMO even back at that time...

And i remembered, yea, fXpansion was sold and the website informed me about this and so i contacted the new vendor. The answer is, well, a kick in the butt of customers. They official classified Geist2 as legacy and do not support it anymore and they send me to FXpansions website which seems unmaintained...another epic fail...

What a sh!t move not to give a simple authorization or just make it a free product...

So, i came to the conclusion, i will sh!t on Geist2, on any FXpansion products (i think they are still sold) and ofc i will avoid Roli products at all.


And...I am still happy that all my RE still work, even if the company or dev already gave up and for sure i will check in detail from which dev i will ever buy a product again.

Next experience will be my HD crash which is currently overdue :-D

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Reason12, Win10

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29 Dec 2023

Reason Studios similarly cut off old users from logging into Reason 7, 6, and Record. They also constantly remove outdated installers like Recycle 2.0.

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29 Dec 2023

dmitrijsorokin wrote:
29 Dec 2023
Reason Studios similarly cut off old users from logging into Reason 7, 6, and Record. They also constantly remove outdated installers like Recycle 2.0.
Thats not true. R7 still can be used.
https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us ... eason-use-

Where did you heard theese lies?
Reason12, Win10

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29 Dec 2023

Loque wrote:
29 Dec 2023
dmitrijsorokin wrote:
29 Dec 2023
Reason Studios similarly cut off old users from logging into Reason 7, 6, and Record. They also constantly remove outdated installers like Recycle 2.0.
Thats not true. R7 still can be used.
https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us ... eason-use-

Where did you heard theese lies?
You don't know by now that online login is disabled for Reason 7 and below?!
https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us ... nd-earlier

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Loque
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29 Dec 2023

dmitrijsorokin wrote:
29 Dec 2023
Loque wrote:
29 Dec 2023


Thats not true. R7 still can be used.
https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us ... eason-use-

Where did you heard theese lies?
You don't know by now that online login is disabled for Reason 7 and below?!
https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us ... nd-earlier
...
You mean "offline authorization", right?

It still works, as long as you do not change your system. And you still can upgrade to R12.

I cannot upgrade to Geist2+ or an updated authorizer from FXpansion.

Roli could have updated the software, but they wont. They just WILL NOT.

That has an impact on my future decisions about that company.
Reason12, Win10

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Jackjackdaw
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29 Dec 2023

Geist 2 was cut adrift when Roli took over and they were far from transparent about it. Kept selling it even though it was abandonware. I wanted to buy it but got a sense something was up by reading the Geist forums. Glad I didn’t.

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DaveyG
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29 Dec 2023

Thanks Joey. Predictable as ever :thumbup:


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30 Dec 2023

Loque wrote:
29 Dec 2023
You mean "offline authorization", right?
I meant online authorization.

A Reason 7 user who has been using online login for years can no longer open his favorite DAW.

Not everyone needs the latest phone.
Not everyone needs Reason 12.

The move to Reason 12 brings new challenges.
It removes support for ReBirth RB-338, Line 6 devices and rewire.

Reason Studios could give you a free upgrade to Reason 8, but they will refuse.

My main point with this is that you felt the same with Geist2 as others did with Reason 7.
There are no eternal licenses, it's just marketing.

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joeyluck wrote:
29 Dec 2023
DaveyG wrote:
29 Dec 2023
Thanks Joey. Predictable as ever :thumbup:
Huh? I don't get it.
A predictably well-informed answer I'd assume.

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michael.jaye wrote:
03 Jan 2024
joeyluck wrote:
29 Dec 2023


Huh? I don't get it.
A predictably well-informed answer I'd assume.
I hadn't commented in this thread 🙃

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