VST 3 roll out in Reason

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edx500
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29 Jul 2022

Hello everyone
So I have searched my ass off trying to get a straight answer about this VST3 implementation....
I was considering getting some kind of VST wrapper, but a couple I've tried (freeware stuff) weren't working for me.
So could someone from Propellerhead's staff please speak up?
Is it DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS etc. before you guys roll this thing out?

If anyone else knows anything I would be grateful.

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29 Jul 2022

In the latest roadmap update, as of last month, they said:
Having fixed the issues in Reason 12, we are now working full throttle on VST3 support. Our VST3 hosting can already load and play instruments and effects, but many refinements are left, and we are expecting it to reach your hands end of year.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7528226

Since they just recently shifted focus to VST3, I would guess it's months away. I would estimate "end of year" to be December, but at the earliest, the fourth quarter (October-December).

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29 Jul 2022

But I'd say Feb 2023 to stay on the safe side.

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29 Jul 2022

Propellerheads is now Reason Studios.

And since it is very hot, I wouldn't expect something in the next 3 months, more until end of year, maybe before Black Friday....
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Loque wrote:
29 Jul 2022
Propellerheads is now Reason Studios.

And since it is very hot, I wouldn't expect something in the next 3 months, more until end of year, maybe before Black Friday....
Feels like the last black Friday was just yesterday 🤷‍♂️

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avasopht wrote:
29 Jul 2022
Feels like the last black Friday was just yesterday 🤷‍♂️
seems like it never ended to me :lol:
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31 Jul 2022

Loque wrote:
29 Jul 2022
Propellerheads is now Reason Studios..
Oh, I know! Thanks! :-)

And thanks everyone for the responses!
Peace

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02 Aug 2022

The Reason Rack plug-in is currently only compatible with DAW's which use the . vst3 or AU plug-in format. AAX compatibility is currently under development and will be available later this year. Reason 11 has a new feature that allows you to use the Reason Rack as a third-party VST3 plug-in within a DAW.

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16 Aug 2022

I'm curious.. Will the VST3 update bring side-chain to WAVES VSTs?
I didn't want to start a new thread.. - sorry for side question. ...
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Did i read that right.. update due end of year!? Insert laugh/cry lol
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Neo wrote:
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I'm curious.. Will the VST3 update bring side-chain to WAVES VSTs?
I didn't want to start a new thread.. - sorry for side question. ...
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Did i read that right.. update due end of year!? Insert laugh/cry lol
I'm guessing those testing it are under NDA so aren't able to share.

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16 Aug 2022

edx500 wrote:
29 Jul 2022
So could someone from Propellerhead's staff please speak up?
Is it DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS etc. before you guys roll this thing out?
A wise man once told me to keep calm and play music.

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avasopht wrote:
16 Aug 2022
Neo wrote:
16 Aug 2022
I'm curious.. Will the VST3 update bring side-chain to WAVES VSTs?
I didn't want to start a new thread.. - sorry for side question. ...
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Did i read that right.. update due end of year!? Insert laugh/cry lol
I'm guessing those testing it are under NDA so aren't able to share.
True.
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18 Aug 2022

Before releasing VST3 they should fix their VST2 implementation. It is clunky. Found a bug today related to external VST plugin usage in Reason and became totally skeptical that their implementation of VST3 gonna be worthwile. It is not a "game breaking" bug, but still a bug. Before submitting a ticket I need to test it on Ableton though.
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18 Aug 2022

If we're lucky they implement VST3 new and completely to spec and then redo their VST2 implementation on top of this new code base.
If we're unlucky they introduce (buggy and incomplete) VST3 support as the last thing in the R12 cycle and leave VST2 as is and then remove VST2 support with Reason 13.

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jam-s wrote:
18 Aug 2022
If we're lucky they implement VST3 new and completely to spec and then redo their VST2 implementation on top of this new code base.
If we're unlucky they introduce (buggy and incomplete) VST3 support as the last thing in the R12 cycle and leave VST2 as is and then remove VST2 support with Reason 13.
Yay!!!!
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That's why I love reason even more since I use it as a plugin and not a DAW...
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19 Aug 2022

I was hoping we could just skip to VST4. It's the one that's an NFT with VR and AI/XR using the Groovie engine.

In all seriousness - the ReasonStudio devs are about quality. They won't taint the code unless it's stenhård. VST3 will arrive eventually. I know that other DAWs already have it, but Reason has a lot of goodies that other DAWs don't. I guess this is just another post where I recommend being patient and enjoying the current state of Reason. The trick is to spank the dancefloor using 100% stock. Get there, then add MasterMatic EasyMix 3 once you've hit a wall with stock/RE/VST2.
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02 Nov 2022

Well it's now November. Any bets on them making it by the end of the year? :)

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02 Nov 2022

Vujadejunky wrote:
02 Nov 2022
Well it's now November. Any bets on them making it by the end of the year? :)
Still 2 Months...probably enough time. I start betting they make it.

On xmas without a VST3 release, i start betting against them :lol:
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02 Nov 2022

Loque wrote:
02 Nov 2022
Vujadejunky wrote:
02 Nov 2022
Well it's now November. Any bets on them making it by the end of the year? :)
Still 2 Months...probably enough time. I start betting they make it.

On xmas without a VST3 release, i start betting against them :lol:
In about a month from now there will be a meeting at RS that goes something like:

Dev: "It's not quite ready yet"
Product Manager: "We have to release it - we said we would"
Dev: "But it's not quite ready yet"
PM: "It must be mostly ready, you've been working on it for months"
Dev: "Yes but..."
PM: "We'll release it. We can always patch it later. Now how are we doing with that M1 stuff?"

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02 Nov 2022

DaveyG wrote:
02 Nov 2022
Loque wrote:
02 Nov 2022


Still 2 Months...probably enough time. I start betting they make it.

On xmas without a VST3 release, i start betting against them :lol:
In about a month from now there will be a meeting at RS that goes something like:

Dev: "It's not quite ready yet"
Product Manager: "We have to release it - we said we would"
Dev: "But it's not quite ready yet"
PM: "It must be mostly ready, you've been working on it for months"
Dev: "Yes but..."
PM: "We'll release it. We can always patch it later. Now how are we doing with that M1 stuff?"
Agree. But in reality it will be shorter:
PM: "Is VST3 ready to roll out?"
Dev: "No, we still need XXX days and have YYY open bugs and ZZZ missing features."
PM: "Ok, we release it tomorrow."

Or as the Boing conversation was:
PM: "Does it fly?"
Dev: "No!"
PM: "Great! We release it and make big money. My stock options will make me rich!"
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02 Nov 2022

Every time I read "VST 3 roll out in Reason" after a refresh, my heart skips a beat. Not yet! I am a little :(, but not long enough for skipping making beats :puf_smile:
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02 Nov 2022

When I got the upgrade to 12 I thought it was going to be like a couple of months that they were going to drop VST3. Then I read end of year. And it really is getting to the end of the year lol :D

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02 Nov 2022

DaveyG wrote:
02 Nov 2022

In about a month from now there will be a meeting at RS that goes something like:

Dev: "It's not quite ready yet"
Product Manager: "We have to release it - we said we would"
Dev: "But it's not quite ready yet"
PM: "It must be mostly ready, you've been working on it for months"
Dev: "Yes but..."
PM: "We'll release it. We can always patch it later. Now how are we doing with that M1 stuff?"
This is close but you forgot about marketing getting involved with a campaign to sell more R+ yearly subscriptions at 60% off because vst3 is on its way....

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03 Nov 2022

Will Reason Studios implement the new VST3 for Reason 9.5 & up?

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