VST tiny in Reason 12

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peterrod
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Post 02 Sep 2021

Just upgraded to Reason+, and now, when I load up Native Instruments Guitar Rig 5, the panel is tiny!! I guess this is to do with the sharpening up of the UI. Is there any way to make the VST look bigger?

CaptainBlack
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Post 02 Sep 2021

Some - like Waves 12 - purport to be scaleable when not all of them seem to have that option. So now I'm peering at a plug-in that's about two inches in size. What's the solution?

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Exowildebeest
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Post 02 Sep 2021

I have the same issue with most VST's, but strangely not with a relatively new one from Audiothing (Springs).

It's odd. It seems like Windows OS scaling is being disregarded for those VST's that look tiny. They should be scaled 200% according to my Windows settings, just like Reason itself and other apps.

I hope this is a bug on Reason's end, and not an issue that requires updating older VST's.

peterrod
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Post 02 Sep 2021

I think the new hi res graphics are a vast improvement, especially on a screen like the Surface Pro. And I love the way you can zoom up the application. I was hoping that would help with the vst sizing problem, but unfortunately it doesn't.

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joeyluck
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Post 02 Sep 2021

I wouldn't think Reason would have any effect on VST size. Do you have screenshots of R12 and a previous version of Reason running the same version of the VST?

peterrod
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Post 02 Sep 2021

I've installed Reason 12 and Guitar Rig on both my desktop PC and my Surface Pro. Guitar Rig displays correctly on the PC but is absolutely tiny on the Surface!!

peterrod
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Post 02 Sep 2021

As you can see, the text is tiny, as is the rack panel.
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joeyluck
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Post 02 Sep 2021

So is it perhaps related to the Surface or the Windows version on the Surface?

peterrod
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Post 02 Sep 2021

Yes, I think I need to find out if this is an issue with the Surface!! It wasn't an issue with Reason 11 on the Surface. Strange.

CaptainBlack
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Post 03 Sep 2021

This one's not much bigger than its snapshot
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Post 03 Sep 2021

Because Reason is now High-DPI compatible application and it's responsible for its own scaling, Windows will not automatically scale (according to scaling factor) Reason GUI & VST plugins GUI anymore. So, VST plugins which are not natively supporting High-DPI, will look tiny on Hi-res monitors.

Reaper, for example, solves this problem with another option, available per each plugin. This option declares VST plugin as High-DPI unaware. This way, plugin is automatically scaled by Windows, despite Reaper being High-DPI aware. Note: this works only when plugin in Reaper is opened in floating window (which is always the case with Reason, anyway).

peterrod
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Post 03 Sep 2021

Ok - thanks for that! Good information.

Tommy T
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Post 04 Sep 2021

I HAVE A TEMPORARY FIX FOR PEOPLE USING REASON 12 ON SURFACES
Since the Reason 12 early access rollout in July I have had the same problem with my vsts/plugins being tiny when opening the vst window.EzDrummer 2,Guitar Rig 6 plus other numerous vsts have been tiny.Selecting the zoom option to any percentage size does not enlarge the vst.
After numerous Google searches tonight I came across this:
In Windows select Settings then Ease of Access then on the left side select Magnifier.Its kind of wonky but is better than a tiny unusable vst. Where the Reason zoom option enlarges Reason to any size but not the vst Magnifier lets you zoom in on the vst and make it larger.
This definitely seems like its an issue Surface users are having.This is my first post.I just joined this forum tonight with the sole purpose of hopefully helping someone out with this tip.
I have looked on this forum for months looking to see if anyone else had this issue and couldnt find anything.In a future update with any luck there will be a fix to this bug.

peterrod
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Post 04 Sep 2021

Ok - that makes sense. Anything that makes them usable is good. Thanks for that. The new zoomable UI is great on the Surface's screen - I hope they bring out a fix for the VST problem.

peterrod
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Post 05 Sep 2021

With this problem, and the fact that nothing has really changed since version 11, I've decided to cancel my subscription to Reason+ when my trail ends. I'm quite happy putting up with slightly more crappy visuals if it means I can use my VSTs! I suspect the lack of innovation in the DAW side of Reason is because they want it to become more of a plug in than a standalone. That's ok, I can live with version 11.

Tommy T
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Post 05 Sep 2021

I can see your frustration with Reason 12.I do think this isnt like a normal release like previous versions where all the new plugins were available on day one of release.I could be wrong but I believe its possible more new devices will be rolled out for free over time as long as you have Reason+.Its just a matter of how much you care about sound packs which I dig a lot.I was worried I was gonna have to switch back and forth between R11 and R12,but Im gonna just try using Magnifier as a workaround until there is an update that fixes the tiny vst bug

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