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bigguy1
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09 Dec 2020

Does anyone know if it is somehow possible to find out which VSTs I used in my songs without opening them.

I test my songs after updating a VST and the more songfiles I have, the more effort this gets. Would be nice to know which songs I have to open and test because they use the updated VST.

Cheers bigguy

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09 Dec 2020

Perhaps name them "-vst" when you save the file
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bigguy1
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09 Dec 2020

deeplink wrote:
09 Dec 2020
Perhaps name them "-vst" when you save the file
I was not thinking about manually maintaining the VSTs (in the filename or somewhere else). Maybe it is possible to have some kind of script running over the reason files to find out which VSTs are used in each file.

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09 Dec 2020

AFAIK the format of the files is not open and therefor no tools or scripts are available.

You could try to reverse engineer the file format, but i think this might be illegal, even if it is not explicitly stated somewhere or is it? I never read through all the stuff of the license agreement, but i would be surprised, if it would be legal...
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Mataya
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09 Dec 2020

Maybe you can set reason to save vst thumbnails to your working folder, so when you build a song with vst's, just remember to click create thumbnail every time you load a new vst when creating a track. That way you would have all the thumbnails in your working folder.
Only problem is that I'm not sure you can set a custom folder to save thumbnails.

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bigguy1
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09 Dec 2020

I had a look at the file in an text editor. Unfortunately I cannot find any VST related readable information there. Reverse Engineering is not only out of my skill set. It would also not be worth the time investing for me :)

Maybe I ask my question to the Reason studios support.

Thx

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09 Dec 2020

deeplink wrote:
09 Dec 2020
Perhaps name them "-vst" when you save the file
Sorry but I knew someone would have to come out with a silly Reason work around answer. So if you use 6 vst's in a track you're supposed to name it "The Man That Was - Spire, Arturia DX7, Cableguys VolumeShaper, Diva, Omnisphere"? lol!

Short answer is, no you can't do it but we should be able to in 2020 in the 6th oldest daw out of 25 daw's.
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09 Dec 2020

bigguy1 wrote:
09 Dec 2020
Does anyone know if it is somehow possible to find out which VSTs I used in my songs without opening them.

I test my songs after updating a VST and the more songfiles I have, the more effort this gets. Would be nice to know which songs I have to open and test because they use the updated VST.

Cheers bigguy
Create extensive notes about each track before you close the project.

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09 Dec 2020

Creativemind wrote:
09 Dec 2020
Short answer is, no you can't do it but we should be able to in 2020 in the 6th oldest daw out of 25 daw's.
I'm curious, which DAWs do this? How does it work? How does the system show me which VSTs I used in an unopened file?

I'm guessing Studio One? You're the Studio One guy right? How does Studio One do it?

bigguy1
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09 Dec 2020

Creativemind wrote:
09 Dec 2020
deeplink wrote:
09 Dec 2020
Perhaps name them "-vst" when you save the file
Sorry but I knew someone would have to come out with a silly Reason work around answer. So if you use 6 vst's in a track you're supposed to name it "The Man That Was - Spire, Arturia DX7, Cableguys VolumeShaper, Diva, Omnisphere"? lol!

Short answer is, no you can't do it but we should be able to in 2020 in the 6th oldest daw out of 25 daw's.
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I guess he just misunterstood in a way that I just want to know if there is a VST used...

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Billy wrote:
09 Dec 2020
Create extensive notes about each track before you close the project.
I was also going to suggest this. I've actually gone back through all of my tracks and added VST notes. Problem is that the Song notes gets truncated if it is too long, so something to be mindful of. ;-) Mine show 9 lines of text max in the browser preview.

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09 Dec 2020

I actually meant a separate text document, but that's handy to know. I assume you mean the actual in Reason notes show up in the OS file browser?

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09 Dec 2020

Would be nice if they had a simple Export devices used option in the File menu, would be a simple case of import that into a db for stats and checking what is used in what etc.

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bxbrkrz
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09 Dec 2020

As a suggestion for a future Reason update it would be nice to have a breakdown of the tools used in a project in a simple text or excel like open file format, the same way you can export your tracks with all different kind of options. One little box you could automatically check for Vst, Re, name of the patches, etc. Now that I think about it, this is important, for cataloging your projects for many years. Things stop working, of tools are out of reach (compagnies going under, dead websites). Using Reason standalone (no VST) made me forget how important this used to be for me.

Edit: Exactly what suggested before me, while I was typing :puf_smile:
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09 Dec 2020

DougalDarkly wrote:
09 Dec 2020
Creativemind wrote:
09 Dec 2020
Short answer is, no you can't do it but we should be able to in 2020 in the 6th oldest daw out of 25 daw's.
I'm curious, which DAWs do this? How does it work? How does the system show me which VSTs I used in an unopened file?

I'm guessing Studio One? You're the Studio One guy right? How does Studio One do it?
I bet Reaper, Cubase and Logic do.
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09 Dec 2020

Creativemind wrote:
09 Dec 2020
I bet Reaper, Cubase and Logic do.
I'd love to know how - I can't find the feature mentioned anywhere - maybe there's an accepted term that I'm not using to search?

What's this feature called in Reaper, Cubase and Logic?

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09 Dec 2020

DougalDarkly wrote:
09 Dec 2020
Creativemind wrote:
09 Dec 2020
I bet Reaper, Cubase and Logic do.
I'd love to know how - I can't find the feature mentioned anywhere - maybe there's an accepted term that I'm not using to search?

What's this feature called in Reaper, Cubase and Logic?
I didn't say it was in any of them. I just speculated.
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09 Dec 2020

Probably wouldn't take long for RS devs to knock one up, they ultimately have access to the file structure and could just output a nice open standard xlm tree that way it could be built upon by the "community"

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09 Dec 2020

I started poll, just because I never have :lol:

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Billy wrote:
09 Dec 2020
I actually meant a separate text document, but that's handy to know. I assume you mean the actual in Reason notes show up in the OS file browser?
I'm talking about the Reason Browser. You get a preview of the song notes there.

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