Odd Behavior with Dune 3

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DonnieAlan
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03 May 2019

I use Reason often to create setups I use for playing live with my church's worship band. Basically what I do is design patches for the songs and then put all the RE Vi's and whatever else I'm using in the rack and assign MIDI channels accordingly. I use a Yamaha MOXF keyboard to play everything and normally set up everything in the MOXF's Master mode, allowing me to set up up to 4 "zones" where I can layer or split sounds. That way I only need to push one button to call up all the presets I need from Reason. It works great!

Until...I wanted to use a couple of patches from Dune 3. The patch I wanted to use only used 1 of the Dune voices. So I saved it in the rack on Reason, assigned it the correct MIDI channel and set up the Master mode on the MOXF. So far so good. However, when I would switch from one preset on the MOXF to another, and then back to the one playing Dune, it changed the Dune patch. Instead of 1 voice it jumped to 6. Normally that's not a major issue, except in this case, it causes CPU issues as Dune is a bit of resource hog. And it sounded just fine with 1 anyway. What I could NOT figure out is where the command was coming from to tell Dune to change that 1 parameter in the patch. As far as I can tell, that is the ONLY thing that changes.

To make things more interesting, I put Dune into a Combinator and then assigned the Combinator to the same MIDI channel and killed the Dune standalone off the rack. And that works. Its okay to do it that way...I use Combinator all the time.

For the life of me, though, I can not figure out what MIDI command is telling Dune 3 to change the voice number parameter from 1 to 6. It did that on 2 different patches on different MIDI channels. I use a wide variety of RE VI's in the exact same way I described above dozens of times and this is the very first time this issue has arisen. Its puzzling and odd. Can anyone shed some light?

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03 May 2019

DonnieAlan wrote:
03 May 2019
For the life of me, though, I can not figure out what MIDI command is telling Dune 3 to change the voice number parameter from 1 to 6. It did that on 2 different patches on different MIDI channels. I use a wide variety of RE VI's in the exact same way I described above dozens of times and this is the very first time this issue has arisen. Its puzzling and odd. Can anyone shed some light?
What version of Reason are you running? I seem to recall a bug with random parameter changes on VSTs. If it's not 10.3, I'd update and see if the program still exists.

DonnieAlan
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Joined: 25 Jan 2017

03 May 2019

ScuzzyEye wrote:
03 May 2019
DonnieAlan wrote:
03 May 2019
For the life of me, though, I can not figure out what MIDI command is telling Dune 3 to change the voice number parameter from 1 to 6. It did that on 2 different patches on different MIDI channels. I use a wide variety of RE VI's in the exact same way I described above dozens of times and this is the very first time this issue has arisen. Its puzzling and odd. Can anyone shed some light?
What version of Reason are you running? I seem to recall a bug with random parameter changes on VSTs. If it's not 10.3, I'd update and see if the program still exists.
I'm running 9.5 right now. If its a random parameter change bug, then its really odd that the ONLY time I've ever encountered it is with this one VI. Its not happened at all with any other VST I use.

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