VST vs Refills - not just VST vs RE

[Dante]

With all the discussion around VST vs RE, seems to me there is also VST vs ReFill. I have some VST that are refills and vice versa

1) Juggernaut (Impact Soundworks)
2) BFD Drums (FXpansion)
3) Forest Frame Drums (FXpansion)

When I stopped buying VST I looked for and replaced them with counterpart RE's - eg replaced Neo Suitcase Rhodes with Radical Keys.

Anyone know of any other VST that are also ReFills ?

[Oquasec]

This realization I've had a while back is that refills are basically in the same category as hundreds of vsts.
Combinator instruments being another one, tons of custom setups to use with a number I've lost track of ages ago.

The new vst dedicated module is welcome regardless, because more ways to do things, is more ways to do things.
Coming from a guy who has and still uses vst format. From a guy who owns omnisphere.

[Dante]

This realization I've had a while back is that refills are basically in the same category as hundreds of vsts..

Up to a point. I have the Juggernaut VST (Kontakt) and its UI is way superior to the refill version, hence I was not tempted to replace the Juggernaut VST with a ReFill. However, now I will be able (hopefully) to use the Juggernaut VST with its great User Interface in Reason.

[Oquasec]

Nice find, getting the refill

[Oquasec]

Besides kontakt's scripting engine [that thing I never use] what else is missing from nnxt?
Haven't done much research on vsts in years

[Oquasec]

Ah, that explains it then.

Besides kontakt's scripting engine [that thing I never use] what else is missing from nnxt?
Haven't done much research on vsts in years

I don't know more quality soundpacks (refills)

Gonna be spendin $$$ on more refills since I never did much research on those either.

[Oquasec]

Basically I save most of my $$$ for the prop shop itself.

[Oquasec]

Rack extensions are pretty great for what they are [them things came out in like 2012-2013]
Whether or not they get better or worse over time, meh
Something's telling me to stick to

[Oquasec]

The better performance excuse does not exist for reason. Rack extensions don't let you write code as low as assembly does I believe.
It's sandboxed nature is the opposite of an optimized vst.

Being a parrot right now btw.

[The Tone Ranger]

Ive been using Reason since 2.0 and never brought a Refill or a VST that is in anyway comparable to a Refill.

[moneykube]

if bug free... I may dabble with vst... but hell... got too much to work with now... I admit I did not beta test

[demt]

if bug free... I may dabble with vst... but hell... got too much to work with now... I admit I did not beta test

The same!

[Oquasec]

Been trying out various things with the logging version for the last 2 weeks, so far so good pretty solid.
I didn't make any songs in the beta though

[JerrelTheKing]

This is a good topic. Well before the 9.5 announcement I realized that the true competitor to VSTi in the Reason world was not RE but Refills in terms of sound quality. Still a bit disappointed that there weren't more RE based refills. There's a lot for Antidote which I have almost all of but only 2 for Predator?? To me this is where the ball dropped..

[Oquasec]

Propellerhead made refillpacker for that

Studio one has soundsets.
Ableton has packs.
Reason has Refills.
If any other daw has their own zip file format lemme know