Reason 15? 2030 prediction thread

[Yonatan]

5 years from now. What you think realistically, and what do you hope for futuristically with Reason DAW in 2030. With AI in heavy usage, will this also make it possible to speed up software development?
What would you love to see in Reason by 2030?

[Loque]

At first, I hope we will see 2030.... The rest is just a bonus.

[Chi-Individual]

At first, I hope we will see 2030.... The rest is just a bonus.

+1

[RobC]

It will work with prompts. : )

The sad thing is, I'm both joking, and being serious.

[Popey]

It will work by neural control and we will have headsets called rewired. We will just think of what wiring we want and a helper inside reason will quickly cable up the devices we thought of in the configuration we wish. The helper is a character (think clippy assistant from early windows os) and can be configured to look like a miniature Ryan Harlin, matthias etc. All rs staff have their own helper image and if staff leave new hires will be added in updates

[TritoneAddiction]

Honestly I have no idea where RS is going. Maybe I've missed it, but I don't feel like they've given us any clues lately.
For me personally by 2030 I suspect I'll still be rocking my R11. If I haven't upgraded in the last 6 years I'm sure I'll be fine making music with R11 for the next 6 more years as well.
Somewhere along the lines I just lost interest in upgrading or buying any new REs. To be clear I'm not buying any VSTs either. So maybe it's a me thing.

[bxbrkrz]

Finally! All the things we've been requested for decades:
Coolio, a color palette generator and no need to reboot Reason
SuBverB, our new FX module focusing on adding lush and expansive reverb to your bass
Vertigo, add that vintage out of phase sickening flavor that was so popular in the analog days, way way back
Figurine, our new voice activated AI. You are finally in control
DingDong, our new metronome sound generator. You want a 4 operator FM sound of a barking dog instead of a boring click? You got it
Free access to Splice for Reason subscribers forever
Subscription for Reason is now also forever

And so much more...

[motuscott]

ReCycle still not included.

[MrFigg]

Maybe they'll have fixed all the bugs from Reason 11,12 and 13.

[Spasy]

Autosave and switch to old browser, hopefully

[esme]

they will have ben sold and might fade away

[Pepin]

With how the world is going lately, I think the offline authorization period may need to be extended.

Also: Blue theme

[Yonatan]

Omg. Had me a few laughs here. It is indeed unsure times. Who the heck know how sci-fi the world will be in 5 years or if things have more delay time until the bigger shifts will be taken for granted. Maybe 2035 or even 2045 will be more mindblowing.

As of now, I just wish for some medium intelligent mixer assistant that can help me set up things easier and faster inside Reason. Not necessarily Ai but more shortcuts allover, saving a lot of time on more boring tasks. We love adjusting things but not all love to start from scratch with wires and do same manouvres allover again. Templates we can make, but would be nice to have faster ways to work even from scratch. The toolboxes in R13 is a nice beginning of this. Hope they really work to make R more and more easy shortcuts to make advanced stuff, while still allowing the picky controls for the engineer minds to tweak and experimant.

And very very soon allow VST midi support and/or integrate similar tools as in Scaler or
https://www.klimper-plugin.com/products/klimper-2

[Yonatan]

I think one dilemma RS has, is what to prioritize when limited resources. We are many that wants to see R as a stand alone do it all production workstation, handling and do all sorts of things. Then at same time many basic functions are still lacking and support for certain new standards MPE, vst-midi, flac etc becomes limiting for some users.

RS could try focus on being the best platform DAW and only do what others cant do for them, and let all things that other VST or companies are ahead of, just make sue it work well together with Resason. There are benefits to that approach but also dangers. If minimalism becomes the vision, the risk is to make the software obsolete in these times when all tech changes fast.

The more unique and versatile of a personality Reason becomes, there will certainly be a nische market for that.
The Rack plugin was a smart way to try to cater to a fast paced market, but they also realized that VST instrument market is also saturated and cant be the only source. So they did came back to also developing the main DAW workflow

I would imagine that a lot of energy goes into trying to figure out what next steps to take the platform, while at same time needing to develop new instruments and fix bugs and try keep up with compatibility of OS and so on.

I believe all of us are at a crossroads where we need contemplate what grand vision we will have for the future.
And I think RS also probably at that stage in their development, just as many other similar audio companies are.

That is why I created the thead, to ponder about, not only what features we miss right now, but also what we envision our need and usage of Reason onward in a few years time.

[Dionysus]

Somewhere along the lines I just lost interest in upgrading or buying any new REs. To be clear I'm not buying any VSTs either. So maybe it's a me thing.

Not just a 'you' thing. If not for an R12 upgrade being gifted to me, I would still be on R11.

I've had enough of Reason Studios lack of development upgrades and innovation. Ditto for never modernizing or refreshing a lot of basic DAW functionality.

My one caveat though.. the MkII Combinator is an INCREDIBLE utility...if you use Combinators. IMO it's the greatest Reason achievement since integrated audio recording. Very poorly conceived design and architecture decisions in that development too, though.

As for the core question about 2030 Reason ? The company will be purchased by Behringer and the Rack integrated into a Super-DAW available only via purchase of a hardware product (then some morally bereft subscription grift). Reason's terrible sequencer will finally be laid to rest in the digital Boneyard of extinct studio software.

[dioxide]

Mono retrig mode in Redrum.

[Chi-Individual]

I think a lot of changes will come to compete with Live and Bitwig. I don’t know what those changes will be but R13 seems to show that RS is looking at what’s hot/standard right now and what they can implement without breaking Reason.

[PhillipOrdonez]

If the development is aided by Ai I’m certain it’ll be a bug infested useless abandonware product by then 🤭

Otherwise I hope by then they implement my focus mode idea, where you get a new, focused view of the rack, zoomed in on the UI of any chosen device and the chain of devices it is connected to (even if at the other side if the rack) available around it for a more streamlined workflow during mixing when projects become large and unmanageable otherwise

And also track folders and all the other features we’ve been requesting for ages

[bxbrkrz]

Sounds almost like a description of Ableton Live 12 today. Didn't want to wait for Apophis and Reason 15.

[djadalaide]

Split off into separate vst instruments and effects and flooding the market with said devices because they are in financial difficulty and need to make some money fast, maybe with the special "reason vsts" that have the full interface in the rack.

[Aosta]

I predict they will finally fix that loose screw on the subtractor, that is when you know the program is fully complete.

[bxbrkrz]

Split off into separate vst instruments and effects and flooding the market with said devices because they are in financial difficulty and need to make some money fast, maybe with the special "reason vsts" that have the full interface in the rack.

How do you know that?

[Loque]

I predict they will finally fix that loose screw on the subtractor, that is when you know the program is fully complete.

Duck tape ftw

[Pepin]

Split off into separate vst instruments and effects and flooding the market with said devices because they are in financial difficulty and need to make some money fast, maybe with the special "reason vsts" that have the full interface in the rack.

How do you know that?

I interpreted that as part of the prediction, not a statement about the present.

But I actually think it's a good idea to offer synths like Objekt and Friktion as standalone VSTs, regardless of the financial situation. They could follow a pricing model like Arturia V Collection, where there's a significantly discounted "suite" as well as individual pricing. Then the rack plugin itself could be offered for free with purchase of any of these.

I tend to use the rack plugin less than I'd like because it feels cumbersome when I just want a single synth or effect. I'm probably not the only one. Outside of Reason standalone, I tend to gravitate toward other stuff.

Of course, RS knows the market better than me.

[bxbrkrz]

How do you know that?

I interpreted that as part of the prediction, not a statement about the present.

But I actually think it's a good idea to offer synths like Objekt and Friktion as standalone VSTs, regardless of the financial situation. They could follow a pricing model like Arturia V Collection, where there's a significantly discounted "suite" as well as individual pricing. Then the rack plugin itself could be offered for free with purchase of any of these.

I tend to use the rack plugin less than I'd like because it feels cumbersome when I just want a single synth or effect. I'm probably not the only one. Outside of Reason standalone, I tend to gravitate toward other stuff.

Of course, RS knows the market better than me.

If you want to see the future, look back.
I was sure Grain was going to be next as a VST/iOS
Or maybe it happened and I am on the wrong timeline. Damn you CERN!