Reason Studios appears to be silent

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luckygreen
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27 Jan 2024

Is it just me or has RS reduced communication since around May of 2023?
  • Low to no activity of offical RS staff on reasontalk.com
  • No news on upcomming fixes / developement of the Reason DAW
Reason Studios appears to be rather silent lately, am I right? What's going on in Reason HQ? What are the next steps with the Reason DAW? Can someone share any news on upcomming fixes / features / releases?
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27 Jan 2024

The silence before the storm........ maybe :?

Your guess is as good as mine :puf_bigsmile:
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Loque
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27 Jan 2024

Man... They didn't called me since years... No meet up... There must be something wrong with them... Shall we call the police?
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DaveyG
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27 Jan 2024

Maybe they have all been abducted and replaced by AI bots.

Anyhow, I messaged them and asked what's going on with Reason and received a very substantial reply so I think everything is OK with them. :thumbup: Their reply is below:

Reason is a digital audio workstation developed by the Swedish company Reason Studios (formerly known as Propellerhead Software) for macOS and Windows. The first version was released in 2000.

Background
Propellerhead Software was founded in 1994 by Ernst Nathorst-Böös, Pelle Jubel and Marcus Zetterquist and launched with ReCycle. They became popular in 1996 after releasing the ReBirth RB-338, described by MusicRadar in February 2011 as "one of the most important virtual instruments in the history of electronic music". By the late 1990s, advancements in technology meant that it became feasible for home users to build their own virtual studios from software, and so in 1999, Propellerhead ended development on ReBirth to work on Reason.[1]

Release history
Reason was first released in November 2000. MusicRadar described it in 2011 as "broadly similar to the likes of Logic and Cubase, but" with its "user interface mimick[ing] a rack full of equipment, allowing instruments, effects and mixers to be linked together in order to create a complete production setup".[1] Subsequent versions came out in September 2002, 2005, September 2007,[1] August 2010,[2] November 2011,[3] April 2013,[4] September 2014,[5] June 2016,[6] October 2017,[7] January 2020,[8] and September 2021.[9] Early versions of the program lacked the ability to record audio, and in September 2009, Propellerhead released Record to work alongside Reason;[10] Record was later merged into Reason 6.[3] The success of the program prompted Propellerhead to rebrand itself as Reason Studios in August 2019.[11]

Reviewing Reason 12, MusicRadar questioned how useful Reason 11 users would find it, but noted that it looked "the best it has in years",[12] while Musictech.com described it as a "brilliant buy" for producers looking for a new digital audio workstation.[13] Pcmag.com noted that "existing fans [...] should take a close look", though criticised its user interface, saying that it had "aged considerably" compared to its competition.[14] Much of The Prodigy's Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned was made on the program,[15] and Goddard. taught himself the program, first by watching YouTube tutorials, then by teaching himself.[16]

References
February 2011, Future Music02 (2 February 2011). "A brief history of Propellerhead Reason and Record". MusicRadar. Retrieved 2021-02-27.
"Propellerhead Software Reason 5 review". MusicRadar. 25 August 2010. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Propellerhead Reason 6". Soundonsound.com. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"James Wiltshire teaches Paralell Processing in Reason 7". Gearjunkies.com. 3 April 2013. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Reason 8 A 'Radical Rethinking Of Reason's Workflow'". Synthtopia.com. 7 August 2014. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Propellerhead creates new musical tools for Reason 9 update". Factmag.com. 20 May 2016. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Review - Ten Best Things About Reason 10". Soundbytesmag.net. 9 May 2018. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Reason 11". Soundonsound.com. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Reason Studios announce the release of Reason 12". Macprovideo.com. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Propellerhead Record In-Depth Preview: Recording, Reason-Style; Beta Test Now". Cdm.link. 11 May 2009. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Propellerhead becomes Reason Studios and releases Reason 11 as a plug-in". Gearnews.com. 26 August 2019. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Reason Studios Reason 12 review". MusicRadar. 9 September 2021. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Reason 12 : the classic modernises but offers few new tools". Musictech.com. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Reason Studios Reason - Review 2022". Uk.pcmag.com. 12 April 2022. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"The Prodigy". Soundonsound.com. Retrieved 10 July 2023.
"Meet Drum and Bass Artist Goddard in His Interview With Albawaba". Albawaba.com. Retrieved 26 June 2023.

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27 Jan 2024

Every public move they make is criticized to death in some form or another. That would make me want to share information less frequently. I love Reason, and I am excited about any future updates (even if they don't benefit me directly), but I also understand potential reasons for silence on their part.

Some people are never happy with anything, and the only way they can make themselves feel better is by negating others.

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27 Jan 2024

WaxTrax wrote:
27 Jan 2024
Every public move they make is criticized to death in some form or another. That would make me want to share information less frequently. I love Reason, and I am excited about any future updates (even if they don't benefit me directly), but I also understand potential reasons for silence on their part.

Some people are never happy with anything, and the only way they can make themselves feel better is by negating others.
Crybaby. If you can't take criticism you shouldn't be in business.
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27 Jan 2024

See I don't see it like that, they're telling you what you're knowing - even the email is more about what reason is rather than answering the question 'whats going on' Which I think was a polite 'I get your message but nah'

Which gives me more a feel that they're being subtle but authoritative, when they want you to know, you may be permitted to know.

The company is a business, so if doing a good thing gets bad feedback - it may be a business decision to stay schtum even if done without emotion, they probably did a bit of a post-project analysis to see if operation 'engage with the customerbase' provided any benefits with regards to the publication of a roadmap, and realise the outcome wasn't favourable vs the effort.
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fullforce wrote:
27 Jan 2024
WaxTrax wrote:
27 Jan 2024
Every public move they make is criticized to death in some form or another. That would make me want to share information less frequently. I love Reason, and I am excited about any future updates (even if they don't benefit me directly), but I also understand potential reasons for silence on their part.

Some people are never happy with anything, and the only way they can make themselves feel better is by negating others.
Crybaby. If you can't take criticism you shouldn't be in business.
Businesses are made up of people, and people, no matter how professional are people.

And it's silly to ignore the fact that the human beings behind the screen might have little interest in engaging with an audience that will just throw shit and hurl abuse at every opportunity they get.

We have to be grown up if we want grown-ups to open up a line of communication with us.

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avasopht wrote:
27 Jan 2024
fullforce wrote:
27 Jan 2024


Crybaby. If you can't take criticism you shouldn't be in business.
Businesses are made up of people, and people, no matter how professional are people.

And it's silly to ignore the fact that the human beings behind the screen might have little interest in engaging with an audience that will just throw shit and hurl abuse at every opportunity they get.

We have to be grown up if we want grown-ups to open up a line of communication with us.
Really. They are usually all over the place (here) when there's either a new release or an update.
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avasopht wrote:
27 Jan 2024
fullforce wrote:
27 Jan 2024


Crybaby. If you can't take criticism you shouldn't be in business.
Businesses are made up of people, and people, no matter how professional are people.

And it's silly to ignore the fact that the human beings behind the screen might have little interest in engaging with an audience that will just throw shit and hurl abuse at every opportunity they get.

We have to be grown up if we want grown-ups to open up a line of communication with us.
Dude! We are not apes and throw sh!t at each other! Get it?
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Loque wrote:
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Dude! We are not apes and throw sh!t at each other! Get it?

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If I squint my eyes a little that table looks like a giant flat turd.

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27 Jan 2024

@DaveyG there's no shot that that is an email you got from them. No shot.

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PhillipOrdonez wrote:
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@DaveyG there's no shot that that is an email you got from them. No shot.
You might be missing the joke.

And fair do's to that woman in the video clip. Not sure I could throw a table that far no matter how angry I was.

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DaveyG wrote:
27 Jan 2024
PhillipOrdonez wrote:
27 Jan 2024
@DaveyG there's no shot that that is an email you got from them. No shot.
You might be missing the joke.

And fair do's to that woman in the video clip. Not sure I could throw a table that far no matter how angry I was.

I'm not. That is obviously some gpt. There are some who Rogan out such jokes.

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PhillipOrdonez wrote:
27 Jan 2024
DaveyG wrote:
27 Jan 2024


You might be missing the joke.

And fair do's to that woman in the video clip. Not sure I could throw a table that far no matter how angry I was.
That is obviously some gpt.
Well, no. It was me, mimicking AI. Kinda AAI, with less emphasis on the I.

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27 Jan 2024

I for one am excited by their silence.

They're either redrying a new version, getting sold or going out of business.

Can't wait to find out.
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DaveyG wrote:
27 Jan 2024
PhillipOrdonez wrote:
27 Jan 2024

That is obviously some gpt.
Well, no. It was me, mimicking AI. Kinda AAI, with less emphasis on the I.
Yeah, it was DaveyGPT

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fullforce wrote:
27 Jan 2024
WaxTrax wrote:
27 Jan 2024
Some people are never happy with anything, and the only way they can make themselves feel better is by negating others.
Crybaby. If you can't take criticism you shouldn't be in business.
I was going to say something about personal attacks, but realized maybe the irony was intentional?
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antic604 wrote:
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I for one am excited by their silence.

They're either redrying a new version, getting sold or going out of business.

Can't wait to find out.
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27 Jan 2024

I am a reason beta tester and RS just posted a new beta of 12.7.3 so I think they are ok, they're still working at making Reason 12 the best it can be. I wouldn't worry.

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27 Jan 2024

DaveyG wrote:
27 Jan 2024
PhillipOrdonez wrote:
27 Jan 2024
@DaveyG there's no shot that that is an email you got from them. No shot.
And fair do's to that woman in the video clip. Not sure I could throw a table that far no matter how angry I was.
Agreed, hats off...

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27 Jan 2024

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maybe it's nap time
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PhillipOrdonez wrote:
27 Jan 2024
DaveyG wrote:
27 Jan 2024


Well, no. It was me, mimicking AI. Kinda AAI, with less emphasis on the I.
Yeah, it was DaveyGPT
Haha. Now you're talking. It would be like normal AI but less helpful, more grumpy, mostly irrelevant and always sarcastic or cynical. :thumbup:

(I asked ChatGPT if such an AI could be useful and it gave me a long, boring reply that started with "...could indeed have some use cases, but it's important to approach this with caution...." That's the trouble with AI - no balls and no imagination.)

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28 Jan 2024

Indeed.
Some music while we wait.. :-)
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28 Jan 2024

It would be nice to hear some news about Reason 13.

My guess is that they will release some information about it on the week that Ableton 12 is available.

They might call it Reason 14 as 13 is an unlucky number!

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