Color in Recycle and Make it Free

[reasonosaer]

Just a suggestion but I think RS could breath new life into the Rexs and Samplers by putting a modern GUI on Recycle and giving it away with a full Reason license and with the subscription. Are they really selling enough copies of it at $99 that it generates more value than doing that would?

It doesn't need any new functionality, just make it colorful and free. It's an almost zero cost way for them to marginally increase the conversion rate for people trying out RRP or Reason+ into long term users. Yes I know mimic does a lot of the same stuff built-in but I don't think .rex loops or the rex players and nn samplers are obsolete, I just think mimic should be able to save and load .rex files separately from patches so its all one system. I think this and a couple of missing features for mimic that are apparently dealbreakers for almost everyone coming from Serrato are all that's needed to turn sampling and loop slicing from a mostly legacy feature set with a lot of qualifications, quirks, and caveats to one of Reason's biggest strengths.

Some non-sampling people who have never played with a working loop slicing system and won't get far enough with nnxt or mimic at first will get hooked by the Rexs, some of them will probably love the retro feel and workflow limitations of the nns. You probably have one shot left to get a lot of the people who do a lot of sampling that tried mimic when it came out and found it cool but unfinished interested again. Coupling a reskinned recycle that's free with a big mimic update that makes it fully compatible with the other .rex file devices is a very efficient way to potentially pique those folks interest in Mimic again and turn reason into a much better long term landing spot for the people went everywhere with an sp-404 in or elektron in their bag as students.

[deigm]

A sensitivity slider on the slice edit page would do the trick. Then it's just right click, save as rex, dump it into mimic or dr.rex and away you go.

[w1pl0c]

A sensitivity slider on the slice edit page would do the trick. Then it's just right click, save as rex, dump it into mimic or dr.rex and away you go.

And a quantized slice mode. Like 1/16, 1/8, triplets, etc.

[Jagwah]

I think modern GUIs are reserved for rack extensions in props land, but it's a nice idea

[challism]

So improve the software AND give it away for free! ha ha Great idea!

[Loque]

They should stopped selling it years ago when Reason could create rex loops.

[ProfessaKaos]

IMO they should just take the features Recycle has (such as Sens slider, Tempo reading, Envelope, Transient, Add slices at 1/16ths, etc) and incorporate them into the slice edit mode in the sequencer of Reason.

[MrFigg]

So improve the software AND give it away for free! ha ha Great idea!

S’what I immediately thought too.

[Aosta]

So improve the software AND give it away for free! ha ha Great idea!

S’what I immediately thought too.

It is a radical business model for sure

[Popey]

S’what I immediately thought too.

It is a radical business model for sure

Yeah but as a consumer I quite like the idea

[deigm]

Yeah I don't know about this free business, but incorporating the functionality into reason and selling it as an upgrade makes sense to me.

[MuttReason]

Well Recycle is now a deprecated product (RS Store webpage has a health warning: "Note: Not tested on macOS Mojave or later") so they may as well do something useful with the underlying code...

[motuscott]

As one of the chumps that actually paid for ReCycle, if I may put in my 2℃,
In the words of the immortal LL Cool J, Fuck all y’all

[bxbrkrz]

One copy of ReCycle was sold. Confirmed.

My suggestion is to get all and everything we always wanted for decades with R+, and only R+.
Once you stop paying you will hear the sound effect *poof* after clicking YES for "Are you sure you want to unsubscribe from the land of milk and honey?"

Poof!

[motuscott]

Stay tuned for Vlad's Val U Pac of Stumblin' Bumblin' Dr Octowreck's Trapset Beets
Coming soon to a RT forum near you
B afraid

[reasonosaer]

So improve the software AND give it away for free! ha ha Great idea!

expected reaction and you'd missed the point!

they could color it in with crayons and upload it to pornhub and get more value out of it in a week than they have since it came out.

[challism]

So improve the software AND give it away for free! ha ha Great idea!

expected reaction and you'd missed the point!

they could color it in with crayons and upload it to pornhub and get more value out of it in a week than they have since it came out.

I didn't miss any point; you aren't as profound as you think. RS probably don't give a crap about Recycle. Why would they? It's been irrelevant ever since Reason has been able to make REX loops.

[integerpoet]

Well Recycle is now a deprecated product ... so they may as well do something useful with the underlying code...

That's not how a software business works. No matter what they said, some users would still expect them to support it in some measure, and that costs money. Open-sourcing it would also be work — if it's practical at all — from a licensing/legal perspective. The status quo may actually be the best of all feasible worlds.

That all said, RS do document the file format, yes? And apps from developers other than RS can read it, yes? So if there is money/attention/jollies to be obtained by some open source developer who is also an audio engineering and/or music geek, such a person might find it interesting to design a very different approach to authoring these files.

[arnigretar]

Recycle through out the years have sold so many copies. So many. In the 90's Recycle was revolutionary. Almost every man who had a sampler, which were many producers back in the day, had Recycle. This was the fondation of the propellerhead company. And today Recycle features are important. As a owner of it I wouldn't mind it being put inside Reason as a rack device for the sampler's / Dr. OctoRex. It just suprises me - after all those years - that they never done it. It should have been inside it long time ago. But that's just like..my opion man. Let's go bowling!

[dioxide]

I've also been suggesting that they give this away, although only to registered Reason users. It can't sell many copies so its value should be as an add on for Reason until they decide to rework it completely (unlikely) or incorporate the missing features into Reason. On the other hand if RS have no interest in ReCycle as suggested above, it's time to let it go the way of Rebirth – and stop selling it.

[dioxide]

The Shop says "Note: Not tested on macOS Mojave or later." Mojave came out in September 2018 so we're approaching 5 years. When the latest version (2.2) was released it was advertised as being compatible with OSX Lion (released in Oct 2010).

Also the current version of Recycle does less than the version in 1998 did from what I recall. I think they dropped all support for hardware samplers in one of the more recent updates. I bought ReCycle in 2004 and it looks like I can still download v2.0 and 2.1 (which support hardware samplers) but I need the original CD to complete the installation. Of course the original CD has long since vanished. Luckily I haven't used a hardware sampler in years but it also shows that there won't be anyone buying ReCycle in order to use it with vintage gear.

[deigm]

Well Recycle is now a deprecated product ... so they may as well do something useful with the underlying code...

That's not how a software business works. No matter what they said, some users would still expect them to support it in some measure, and that costs money. Open-sourcing it would also be work — if it's practical at all — from a licensing/legal perspective. The status quo may actually be the best of all feasible worlds.

That all said, RS do document the file format, yes? And apps from developers other than RS can read it, yes? So if there is money/attention/jollies to be obtained by some open source developer who is also an audio engineering and/or music geek, such a person might find it interesting to design a very different approach to authoring these files.

I like this idea. It sounds like the kind of project I'd like to take on if I wasn't a dumbass.

But since I am, let Props make Recycle a Rack Extension! I might even pay the full price of Recycle for a rack extension version..

[motuscott]

Rockin' ReCycle 2.2.4 over here my tired old matrons of the beatmanipulates.
Slice 'n Dice MotuRetro gonna bring the hurt.

[bxbrkrz]

I always thought RS was making money from challenging software that was doing what rEcYcled was doing. Maybe they had a worldwide patent on auto transient detection. Inside DAWs, or inside hardware, synths. So if they stop selling their product, they stop making money via licensing...

I hope what I just made up is true.

[integerpoet]

I like this idea. It sounds like the kind of project I'd like to take on if I wasn't a dumbass.

Sometimes the least dumbass thing to do is choose not to start another side project.