Who would you prefer to acquire Reason Studios?

[kitekrazy]

I'd rather be what they were before the stuffed shirts came in.
Cakewalk was doing the sub thing promising new content every month. That limits resources to do other things.
When a sub model is constantly promoted it turns potential away. There is this phobia among DAW users that all of their licenses will turn to subs.

Mergers or acquisitions should let that company run business as usual. Taking another code and trying to merge into another code rarely happens. Sometimes developers as they get older want to retire at a younger age. Hopefully they train other developers. Sometimes a developer moves on to other things leaving no one else to work on the code. That's why Sonar/Cakewalk never improved heir staff view.

Magix bought the Sony software. Supposedly they retained some of the staff. I'm not so sure or they retired. Upgrades and Acid, Soundforge, and Vegas have been lackluster.

Tascam sold of Gigastudio to Gary Garritan. People were thrilled but too much code for someone to deal with and that was history.

Gibson buying anyone, puts fear in anyone. When a company that is failing aquires someone to supplement income that never works out.

Presonus is under Fender.

When Image Line bought UVI the FL fans creed for IL/UVI to ditch iLok. Rare that an outside company can change the authorization of something they didn't develop. If Bandlab bought Reason Studios I doubt the authorization would change.

When In Music takes over it become a slow death to paid vaporware. It's the BFD authorization that makes me scream for iLok.

Many of those companies mentioned are small developers. Buying Reason would be a lot of money.

I miss when it was Propellar Heads instead of Reason Studios.

[crimsonwarlock]

If Bandlab bought Reason Studios I doubt the authorization would change.

If Bandlab bought Reason, it would become free. The Bandlab business model is not about selling software licenses.

Many of those companies mentioned are small developers. Buying Reason would be a lot of money.

Bandlab is owned by a multimillionaire who has money to burn. He bought the Cakewalk software, made it free, and threw a serious development staff at it to boot. The Cakewalk update schedule is one of the most active around now. Besides that, tmo Bandlab is one of the very few companies where Reason would be a worthwhile expansion of their tool's portfolio.

Reaper is also owned by a multimillionaire, but he is not buying other software assets. Bandlab is.

[moalla]

Changed my vote, after have notice that their is this "small" musiccompany, especial with tiniest but max overpriced products in the world, who is one of the most marketing powerfull companys in the whole audio consumer market! Maybee two times bigger than reasonstudios of their number of employes, but now they only make money with hardware, so could be the most accurate pot to lid . Now they released nothing more than a freytag like bag for gear, what could seen, ass the have needings for shopping of theirself

Teenage Engeneering from Stockholm colaborating incidentally with IKEA


These are the best looking plasticstuff for your ears, believe ME it´s called FREKVENS
and Reason is also all about FREKVENS

Everything is said now, or.......

[DJMaytag]

Why does anyone bother responding to the OP’s trolling?

[moalla]

Why does anyone bother responding to the OP’s trolling?

WHY, hmm cause music and technicnerds are crazy,
now don't be so serious, good man
Assumptions are just inspiring

maybee now this thread could be closed
one vote close the thread tommorow afternoon

[kuhliloach]

My dream is simply to be able to use my RE's within Logic so I voted for Apple. To this day trying to use the RRP within Logic means lots of crashing if you are someone who keeps your Mac updated to the latest OS. Also- Codemeter is a dumpster fire which I would love to replace with the kind of simplicity offered by App Store style installation.

[DJMaytag]

WHY, hmm cause music and technicnerds are crazy,
now don't be so serious, good man
Assumptions are just inspiring

maybee now this thread could be closed
one vote close the thread tommorow afternoon

The OP is pretty anti-Reason, and rarely has anything positive to say. Why he’s here is beyond me…

[jlgrimes]

If Bandlab bought Reason Studios I doubt the authorization would change.

If Bandlab bought Reason, it would become free. The Bandlab business model is not about selling software licenses.

Many of those companies mentioned are small developers. Buying Reason would be a lot of money.

Bandlab is owned by a multimillionaire who has money to burn. He bought the Cakewalk software, made it free, and threw a serious development staff at it to boot. The Cakewalk update schedule is one of the most active around now. Besides that, tmo Bandlab is one of the very few companies where Reason would be a worthwhile expansion of their tool's portfolio.

Reaper is also owned by a multimillionaire, but he is not buying other software assets. Bandlab is.

I'm not sure how easy this would be in Reason's case.

Reason now has thousands of RE's to consider and I'm thinking they would want to keep this revenue stream open.

It is possible that they could make Reason free and charge for REs. It would be great if the RE stream could be further improved as it has the potential to make a lot of money for Reason or whoever owns it.

[RobBarnett]

SSL. Imagine the mixer

[Jagwah]

make it open source stick it on github.
allow others to submit bug fixes / features and folks.
with a fully free community rack extension build and deployment system.

Always liked the idea of Reason going open source - only because Props have been so monumentally slow. Things like video support wouldn't be laughable. That simple sequencer marker people so often spoke about could be done in a few hours - compared to RS' attempt which is simply never accomplishing it, ever.

[jam-s]

SSL. Imagine the mixer

I'd rather not. From their plugins they seem to have a botched look on how the perspective in their skeumorph design should look like.

[jam-s]

...That simple sequencer marker people so often spoke about could be done in a few hours - compared to RS' attempt which is simply never accomplishing it, ever.

I think your guesstimate is mus too low. in a few hours you'd most likely just be scratching the surface on getting a grasp on the general architecture of the code base. Give it a week or two (of working on this full time) for somebody new to a complex code base before expecting any useful feature implementation and you'll be in the right ballpark imho.

[Jac459]

...That simple sequencer marker people so often spoke about could be done in a few hours - compared to RS' attempt which is simply never accomplishing it, ever.

I think your guesstimate is mus too low. in a few hours you'd most likely just be scratching the surface on getting a grasp on the general architecture of the code base. Give it a week or two (of working on this full time) for somebody new to a complex code base before expecting any useful feature implementation and you'll be in the right ballpark imho.

A week or two for development, then 5 weeks for code merge, integration tests, another 5 for UAT, etc etc .

[kitekrazy]

If Bandlab bought Reason Studios I doubt the authorization would change.

If Bandlab bought Reason, it would become free. The Bandlab business model is not about selling software licenses.

Many of those companies mentioned are small developers. Buying Reason would be a lot of money.

Bandlab is owned by a multimillionaire who has money to burn. He bought the Cakewalk software, made it free, and threw a serious development staff at it to boot. The Cakewalk update schedule is one of the most active around now. Besides that, tmo Bandlab is one of the very few companies where Reason would be a worthwhile expansion of their tool's portfolio.

Reaper is also owned by a multimillionaire, but he is not buying other software assets. Bandlab is.

Cakewalk has probably been more upgraded than Reason. Unfortunately the staff view is there to die. One of the former top guys visits the forum. Outside the DAW I guess Bandlab's offerings which are online and phone apps are popular in Asia. The same guy who owns Bandlab discontinued Music Tech magazine. Odd Cakewalk was never promoted or on their install DVDs, not even in the Bandlab hardware.
When Cakewalk products were cancelled it shocked the DAW world, mostly developers. I like watching Crearive Sauce on youtube. His videos on Cakewalk is excellent.

DAWs will always exist because there is still a fanbase. People still use Acid Pro.

[miscend]

Why are most people voting for an Apple buyout?

If Apple bought them they'd discontinue Reason and put all the features into Logic Pro. This is what they did when they bought Camel Audio and Redmatica.

[DaveyG]

Why are most people voting for an Apple buyout?

If Apple bought them they'd discontinue Reason and put all the features into Logic Pro. This is what they did when they bought Camel Audio and Redmatica.

It's also what they did with Logic when they bought Emagic.
I'm not a Mac user but Reason integrated with Logic Pro might be a reason to become one.

[Hazel]

Yeah, my opinion, if Apple ended up with it, that would be the end of it, or at the very least a big step backwards. They are notorious for keeping everything proprietary within their environment. No thanks.

[moalla]

Do someone know what is written now in the AGB if xy buys reasonstudios and what´ will be with the licenses of earlier versions....
Now this thread makes me a little bit nervous at all, so i have to save my best reason installs in backups, that never ever a Tim Cook can kill my lovely reason,

sarcasm ON "but for all new trendy 2,5k macbook pro users who are now got reasonusers it´s not a problem, cause for them it´s not a question of costs or compatibility in most cases, for these people it looks like that it´s more important question of nerd religion.Music and innovation getting more and more less interesting instead of fancy hardware and coolnees, wich means most controllers/interfaces/software plugs must replaced every second OS version"..... sarcasm OFF

The next big thing in compatibility means instead of jbridge, driver bridge, app bridge........ 🤮
so it´s better too learn machine coding to save real quality products instead of more and more weak stuff

if this sounds to hard, you could send me a message, but this here is at the end all about music and not highest rated stock exchange bullshit!

I´m able to use a older ipad with garageband now, NO it´s not compatible with older IOS versions, so from GARAGEBAND to POSHBAND.
New IOS version means mostly now, apps getting incompatible and the best apps what once coded for ios getting useless, that´s the sad truth.... 🤮🤮🤮

[Jagwah]

I think your guesstimate is mus too low. in a few hours you'd most likely just be scratching the surface on getting a grasp on the general architecture of the code base. Give it a week or two (of working on this full time) for somebody new to a complex code base before expecting any useful feature implementation and you'll be in the right ballpark imho.

A week or two for development, then 5 weeks for code merge, integration tests, another 5 for UAT, etc etc .

That's still pretty quick in comparison

[Jac459]

That's still pretty quick in comparison

True

[iTrensharo]

If Bandlab bought Reason, it would become free. The Bandlab business model is not about selling software licenses.



Bandlab is owned by a multimillionaire who has money to burn. He bought the Cakewalk software, made it free, and threw a serious development staff at it to boot. The Cakewalk update schedule is one of the most active around now. Besides that, tmo Bandlab is one of the very few companies where Reason would be a worthwhile expansion of their tool's portfolio.

Reaper is also owned by a multimillionaire, but he is not buying other software assets. Bandlab is.

Cakewalk has probably been more upgraded than Reason. Unfortunately the staff view is there to die. One of the former top guys visits the forum. Outside the DAW I guess Bandlab's offerings which are online and phone apps are popular in Asia. The same guy who owns Bandlab discontinued Music Tech magazine. Odd Cakewalk was never promoted or on their install DVDs, not even in the Bandlab hardware.
When Cakewalk products were cancelled it shocked the DAW world, mostly developers. I like watching Crearive Sauce on youtube. His videos on Cakewalk is excellent.

DAWs will always exist because there is still a fanbase. People still use Acid Pro.

Reason doesn't have Notation at all, so it's hard to complain about what exists there from this platform, Lol.

I don't see why BandLab would want Reason. People forget how much stuff Cakewalk had, that BandLab now owns. They actually have a lot that they could update and re-release. There isn't going to be a huge incentive to purchase anything from Reason for potentially tens of millions of dollars, when they can more cheaply monetize the assets they already own for less cost.

The instrument/plug-in market is so saturated now that much of it is in a race to the bottom. A bunch of Rack Extensions that RS almost never touch/update/enhance is not really going to entice anyone... especially considering they are using a proprietary plug-in format that makes it more difficult for them to be easily monetized to others who do not use Reason itself.

RRP is really nice, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I used other synths [directly] more often... just to avoid the hassle of dealing with the rack. The instruments are decent, but they are largely redundant in the overall market. And it not being AS Native means I cannot use it in Cubase on my MBP, anyways. Either I use Logic Pro - which I am still not that proficient in - of I ignore it. And, thus far, I've just been ignoring it. I haven't even installed it there. Just got back from a trip and didn't even use it once while gone, because I only brought my MBP with me.

[motuscott]

Love this game where you pretend your vote counts as much as the guys with the money...
Still Reason Fanboi#1 until it disappears from my computer

[DJMaytag]

My vote would be the Focusrite Group. It was well noted that when they bought Sequential Circuits, it allowed Dave Smith to focus more clearly on designing instruments (up until his recent passing). That’s the kind of place I’d like to see RS, under an umbrella where they can focus on the rite things to further develop Reason.

[crimsonwarlock]

I don't see why BandLab would want Reason. People forget how much stuff Cakewalk had, that BandLab now owns

Bandlab runs a platform for musicians, that is their core business. They already had the Bandlab DAW, but still bought Cakewalk. The reason for that is obvious: to cater to the more seasoned musicians, as the Bandlab DAW is more aimed at beginners. Reason caters more to electronic musicians, where Cakewalk caters more to traditional recording. Cakewalk sits in the realm of Protools, Reaper, Cubase, etc. and Reason sits more in the realm of FL Studio, Live and Bitwig. So, buying Reason would bring many musicians to their platform that they won't reach with their current offerings.

So, basically, they would want Reason for all the users that Cakewalk doesn't cater to.

[PhillipOrdonez]

WHY, hmm cause music and technicnerds are crazy,
now don't be so serious, good man
Assumptions are just inspiring

maybee now this thread could be closed
one vote close the thread tommorow afternoon

The OP is pretty anti-Reason, and rarely has anything positive to say. Why he’s here is beyond me…

Is he? I haven't noticed.