Reason
- + better for recording
- - you can't resell it
- + cheaper in the long run
- + better for performing
- + you can resell modules
- - scarcity of specific modules or parts
If I received raises more often, this is clearly the route I'd be going on
Oh!! Everything here I meant to include, especially the "multiple instances" part. Also, I do enjoy getting away from the screen more than I thought I would.
This must be comedy. Nothing ages faster than software. Of course - if you stick with your system and put an identical spare system in your store room, then it might work. And probably on Windows it works better than with Apple and macOS. Apple users have to put their entire software environment upside down with the advent of ARM Macs. As they did 15 years ago with the switch from PPC to Intel.challism wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022Another positive for Reason is the fact that software doesn't age or become faulty/break. If it works today, it'll work 10 years from now (on the same OS). Can be reinstalled and moved to other systems, etc.
And the flip side of that positive is another negative for physical hardware: It ages and is subject to failure.
This sounds like you are agreeing with me; saying the software (Reason) would outlast the hardware (computer). Why else would you need a backup, identical computer system other than hardware failure? So glad we agree.
I knew, as I was tying the word "age", that somebody would pick apart that word choice. I should have picked a better word than age, because it can be applied in different ways.. Of course, software ages in terms of trends, or updates (which are usually optional) or becoming incompatible with new hardware. My use of the word "age" was meant in the physical sense; software doesn't get dusty or corroded. I live in an extremely humid environment and I've been saddened to see my hardware take the abuse it has taken in this humidify. Pretty much all the hardware I brought with me has all stopped working. This is hardware that was working just fine in my arid climate for years, and it is all non-functional and unusable now. These are things like the Boss ME-50 that is notoriously built like a tank (it must be corroded so badly inside, I can't get any sounds out of it). But Reason still works. In fact, Reason has worked perfectly for me on the same computer from V1 to V6.5. And they still work great on that old computer (which has needed new parts over the years - Reason hasn't needed any new "parts"). I had to upgrade to 64bit OS to move to R7, but that was NEW software and totally optional. And it still works great too. Since upgrading to R7, I've gone through many "new" computers and had to replace many computer parts (hard drives, RAM, power supplies, mother boards). In my experience, this his harsh climate, the software has far outlasted the hardware. Each version of Reason still looks and performs as it did the first day I installed it, and I can install on older version anytime I want to get the same performance I've always gotten. That's what I was saying.
Yeah, probably it's a matter of proper definition. And by your description it doesn't matter if you blame hardware for aging (in fact it does - my trusty DX7 needs recapping in a not so distant future) or if you have the same issues with "aged" computer hardware and need a new computer. In both cases it's not cheap! Worst case of course: if your old Apple Mac breaks and you must buy a new one: you have no choice but decide for the latest OS (incompatibility) and CPU architecture, if you don't buy used.
If money was no object, I would have WAY more hardware than I do. My hardware is pretty sorry anymore... just ask my disappointed wife about that. But I agree with sentiments others have made... hybrid is a good way to go.madmacman wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022Yeah, probably it's a matter of proper definition. And by your description it doesn't matter if you blame hardware for aging (in fact it does - my trusty DX7 needs recapping in a not so distant future) or if you have the same issues with "aged" computer hardware and need a new computer. In both cases it's not cheap! Worst case of course: if your old Apple Mac breaks and you must buy a new one: you have no choice but decide for the latest OS (incompatibility) and CPU architecture, if you don't buy used.
I'm an old fellow, grown up with "hardware only" long before the first true DAW came to light. And while my friends and I used DAW's, we always preferred our hardware devices over plugins. But that's probably a different story of individual socialization.
At the end of the day, every path has its pitfalls. And it's a only matter of personal preference what you want to mess with on a daily basis.
When I said that origianlly, I meant that I couldn't do both in terms of money. Things often get expensive quickly.
carboot wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022Years ago I tried Reason and quickly left because it didn't make sense. Over the last few years, I got into eurorack and decided to try Reason again. Needless to say, after having used a physical module (and other DAWs), Reason now makes a lot more sense. In the future though, I'm not sure I can do both.
ReasonPhysical
- + better for recording
- - you can't resell it
- + cheaper in the long run
These are some pros and cons I thought of, but would love to hear any experiences anyone has had in going from physical modules to Reason (or vice versa).
- + better for performing
- + you can resell modules
- - scarcity of specific modules or parts
As far as Analog synths I think it can get pretty close.
Old school cameras. You have 12, 24 opportunities per roll. So you would think twice before taking that shot.jlgrimes wrote: ↑25 Mar 2022As far as Analog synths I think it can get pretty close.
I often play Analogs at Guitar Center and I don't hear much difference compared to VSTis like Diva or certain REs like Viking.
The biggest thing is workflow. An analog (or modular) can be more rewarding to program and tweak. Even if using a good midi controller, it still isn't as intuitive as a dedicated interface.
Computer GUIs and hardware controllers have come a long way but still knobs can be a little easier when trying to find tune settings.
That said on the flip side there are often thousands of patches easily available for softsynths, which would be difficult or impossible to manage in hardware.
When I posted this originally, it wasn't to say one was better than the other. My issue was that they both seemed expensive, so I was trying to pick a route to go down. A few people in this thread presented the idea of a hybrid system. I didn't consider that before, but that might work for me at some later time.
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