Generate choir out of 1 audio lane vocal

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me-yourself-and-them
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10 Mar 2022

Hi guys,

I'm trying to get a full choir (or rather a singing batallion) our of one vocal audio lane.

what i got so far:
  • duplicate track to 3 lanes
  • shift their positions slightly
  • transpose each track to a different octave
  • detune copies slightly
  • apply a reverb on one base track
still not really a choir. any better options?

did anyone manage to get this old 32bit plugin to work in reason?
https://www.cloneensemble.com/

cheers

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Loque
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10 Mar 2022

Modify the pitch. Go to the pitch editor, change some of the slices. Also change some of the slices by moving them a little bit and change their size. Also change some slices' formant.

Record multiple takes and overlay them.

You can also add Chorus, Unison or Flanger/Phaser in send mode. Also change the timbre with other plugins like distortion, saturation, EQ, ...

If you have a pitch shifter, add some slight movement with it.

Add a formant movement with a formant filter if you have it.

After all, merge them into a bus channel, compress, add some slight saturation, eq, chorus if you like and job is done.
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crimsonwarlock
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10 Mar 2022

me-yourself-and-them wrote:
10 Mar 2022
  • shift their positions slightly
  • detune copies slightly
The problem is (as I get from your description) that those two are static in nature. The different voices need to move in space and time to get a choir effect.

The quick way to get to that is to get the Double Tracking Effect RE, and drop one with different settings in each duplicated vocal track: https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... ng-effect/

The more involved way is to build a combinator that does something similar. I'm currently working on one, but it isn't ready yet. Just to give you an idea about this:


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joeyluck
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10 Mar 2022

Some good tips here.

I haven't used this plugin, but I just saw that Antares is giving away their Choir plugin if you do the 14 day trial of Auto-Tune Unlimited.

Might be useful. Although it's VST3/AU/AAX (no VST2) so might have to wait to use it with Reason.

https://www.antarestech.com

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11 Mar 2022

you talk about transposing to a different octave, but normally a choir will sing chords i.e. different notes.
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12 Mar 2022

Auryn wrote:
11 Mar 2022
you talk about transposing to a different octave, but normally a choir will sing chords i.e. different notes.
My guess is: He wants to have a choir-like backing vocal track. Octave vocals is a quick win in that case. A full choir not only sings chords (actually intervals), but also specific arrangements for the different voice groups. A real choir is basically an orchestra of voices.
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me-yourself-and-them
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12 Mar 2022

yep, just want to make it sound "full". checke chords too, not needed. thanks for the hint with antares. tried it, but i'd have to upgrade to reason 12 to use vst3 plugins.

https://www.cloneensemble.com/ sounds really promising. anyone got it to work under reason? it's from 2010, 32bit vst2 plugin.

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12 Mar 2022

me-yourself-and-them wrote:
12 Mar 2022
.. i'd have to upgrade to reason 12 to use vst3 plugins.
Reason 12 does not (yet) support VST3 plugins.
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