Increased fan noise with Reason 12?

[eiresurfer]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has seen an increase in the level of fan noise on their machines with R12? I have a decent laptop - Lenovo Legion 5, 16GB Ram, nvidia RTX GeForce 2060 graphics card.

The problem is that it may have been the same on R11, but I didn't pay much attention. I tried to re-install R11 to compare, but my login no longer works on version 11 (which shouldn't be the case in my opinion, I should be able to downgrade if I've paid for it, but that's another story).

With Reason 12, and the high def graphics, I'm suddenly wondering if this has resulted in some more fan noise, but like I said, I'm not sure.

[Loque]

No, no difference.

[Adabler]

Did you add redrum to the rack?

[RoryM0]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has seen an increase in the level of fan noise on their machines with R12? I have a decent laptop - Lenovo Legion 5, 16GB Ram, nvidia RTX GeForce 2060 graphics card.

The problem is that it may have been the same on R11, but I didn't pay much attention. I tried to re-install R11 to compare, but my login no longer works on version 11 (which shouldn't be the case in my opinion, I should be able to downgrade if I've paid for it, but that's another story).

With Reason 12, and the high def graphics, I'm suddenly wondering if this has resulted in some more fan noise, but like I said, I'm not sure.

Yes I have definitely noticed this on mine. Feels llike computer is working harder than R10 (I didn't have R11).

[Noise]

Yes, I confirm V12 triggers more my CPU Fan. I'm on a desktop I9900k
Can't remember this issue on V11, maybe because it won't trigger so easily.

[Loque]

Mac or Windows?

[Arrant]

Since R12 takes advantage of the GPU, are you sure you’re not hearing the GPU fan? These are often more powerful and loud than CPU fans.

[eiresurfer]

Yeah, I was thinking the GPU fan might be kicking in. But, to be honest, it shouldn't be that heavy on graphics, as it's really just (mostly) high def static images that are being rendered (as opposed to what it would be rendering in a game).

[QVprod]

If you’re one of the unlucky ones with heavier cpu load then that would explain higher fan noise.

[eiresurfer]

If you’re one of the unlucky ones with heavier cpu load then that would explain higher fan noise.

Actually, I don't think I am - the CPU meter is staying fairly low. That said, it might have been just as bad in R11, but I can't compare it.

[SoundObjects]

I have this fan noise shortly eg. when open the RRP.
It's properly the graphic card doing some initializeing work
when opening rack synths.
The GPU shows a short spike in the performance monitor
but the CPU seems to be unaffected.

[Neo]

I definitely noticed that myself.

[adfielding]

Yeah, I was thinking the GPU fan might be kicking in. But, to be honest, it shouldn't be that heavy on graphics, as it's really just (mostly) high def static images that are being rendered (as opposed to what it would be rendering in a game).

I wouldn't rule that out as a distinct possibility. Although Reason 12 might not be particular GPU intensive, a little use is stil greater than "none" which is (by my understanding) where it would have sat before. Given that you're using a traditional fan-cooled laptop, there's not a whole lot of wiggle room when it comes to physically dissipating air, so you're going to see a quicker rise in temperature when the GPU kicks in - which means, in this case, you're much more likely to experience GPU fans whirring under any sort of load than you would on a desktop.

It might be worth seeing if there's a way to increase the temperature threshold at which the GPU fan kicks in - a slight increase could make a bit of a difference here while keeping temperatures within safe levels. Of course, that depends entirely on whether you're comfortable with that idea.

[eiresurfer]

Yeah, I was thinking the GPU fan might be kicking in. But, to be honest, it shouldn't be that heavy on graphics, as it's really just (mostly) high def static images that are being rendered (as opposed to what it would be rendering in a game).

I wouldn't rule that out as a distinct possibility. Although Reason 12 might not be particular GPU intensive, a little use is stil greater than "none" which is (by my understanding) where it would have sat before. Given that you're using a traditional fan-cooled laptop, there's not a whole lot of wiggle room when it comes to physically dissipating air, so you're going to see a quicker rise in temperature when the GPU kicks in - which means, in this case, you're much more likely to experience GPU fans whirring under any sort of load than you would on a desktop.

It might be worth seeing if there's a way to increase the temperature threshold at which the GPU fan kicks in - a slight increase could make a bit of a difference here while keeping temperatures within safe levels. Of course, that depends entirely on whether you're comfortable with that idea.

I'm definitely NOT comfortable with that idea!

I'll have to save up to buy a Macbook with an M1 chip.

Until then, it's not that bad, more of a slight annoyance.

[gullum]

I have an intel Mac Mini and I'm not even sure if it has a fan because I havn't heard it yet

[SoundObjects]

The wind noise outside my window is fare more annoying than this.

[arnigretar]

Did you add redrum to the rack?

[moofi]

As far as I remember it´s a 3D engine rendering the devices in RT, thus not only static images like a texture.

Yeah, I was thinking the GPU fan might be kicking in. But, to be honest, it shouldn't be that heavy on graphics, as it's really just (mostly) high def static images that are being rendered (as opposed to what it would be rendering in a game).

[artotaku]

Yes, Win10 with an Intel Graphics UHD 630 here, it may be related the CPU or GPU 0 3D which is around 30 % all the time in a project with quite a few devices.
GPU decreases if song is not playing, though.

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[fieldframe]

As far as I remember it´s a 3D engine rendering the devices in RT, thus not only static images like a texture.

Yeah, I was thinking the GPU fan might be kicking in. But, to be honest, it shouldn't be that heavy on graphics, as it's really just (mostly) high def static images that are being rendered (as opposed to what it would be rendering in a game).

Yes and no. Being GPU-accelerated, it's like a 3D engine in that it's doing the same thing a 3D engine would: using hardware acceleration to push textured triangles to the screen. That's where the similarities end, though. The triangles Reason is rendering are big, flat ones assembled into quads with super-high-res textures and no lighting, shadows, shaders, etc. In effect, it's acting more as a compositor than a 3D engine, even if it's using the same graphics pipeline.

[eiresurfer]

I think it's more CPU for me.

My task manager is showing:
CPU: around 40-50%
GPU: around 10-20%

The fan noise tends to vary a lot. Goes quite high for a few minutes after starting Reason. But can go down a bit sometimes as well.

[honeyBadger]

Same here, especially on startup the fans go crazy in my desktop, never had that happen before with previous versions, pretty disappointing, it’s like running a game in high settings.

[StephenHutchinson]

Absolutely... in fact... literally 30 seconds before I saw this post, I was thinking how nice and quiet the last week has been using Reason 11 rather than Reason 12 (on both my Mac and PC)... and voom! Here we are. Even if I just open up Reason 12 and do absolutely nothing, the fans rev up and don't stop until I close it. Both my Mac and PC don't have anything but internal integrated graphics.

[kbard]

Yep I just run a R12 demo on laptop. Windoes 10 machine. Fan speed is more prominent then on R11 no question about it. As if it goes on the whole time. Same project on R11 and it's fine somehow. Weird as I never noticed it on my main machine (ryzen 5900).

[Majestik Monkey]

Did you add redrum to the rack?

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