New Pricing for Reason 12 - Upgrades now 199 from 129

[whitewolfmusic]

I just wasted half an hour listening to that nonsense.
He couldn't even do a minute or two of research to get his facts straight?
The Combinator came out in Reason 3, not 2.5.
Record was integrated into Reason 6, not 8/9.
Rack Extensions came in 6.5, not in 9.
VST integration came in 9.5.
If you need 4 instances of Thor to come out with a "fat" sound, you don't know how to design sounds. I manage on one Subtractor (the synth we had back in Reason 1).

And that whole argument at the end about the problem being that there's too many developers and too many producers? My god. I can't even.

I know, I know. But the little errors he made with facts from memory are not the point. The important bit is the feeling he described. When we only had Reason without any kind of plugins, every new addition was exciting and adding more power to the user. This feeling of growth, within this self-contained instrument, later DAW, got lost with the recent upgrades. While I am also excited of the sheer power and flexibility that VST inside Reason and Reason as a plugin give the user, these steps away from the self-contained space Reason used to be, felt very different to upgrades before. Plus, as these are some quite difficult and necessary technology changes, they come with way more flaws than long-term users know from Reason. So these last upgrades also felt unfinished / rushed.

The move to let the VST world enter Reason took away the best things about Reasons original vision. And the move to make the Rack available as a plugin (while very welcome) also was a diversion from this enclosed space Reason has been up to that point. Which really had benefits. The stability was unmatched, and every single device had its place, a meaning and added creative power. Working with the limitations also lead to a much more focused, creative workflow. Rack Extensions are a beautifully executed way to expand this ecosystem, but they need more high profile developers and plugins to join the format. Honestly, I don't like the current VST integration at all. It has a bad performance compared to other DAWs and the integration via this ugly Rack dummy device feels out of place.

[joeyluck]

The Combinator came out in Reason 3, not 2.5.
Record was integrated into Reason 6, not 8/9.
Rack Extensions came in 6.5, not in 9.
VST integration came in 9.5.
If you need 4 instances of Thor to come out with a "fat" sound, you don't know how to design sounds. I manage on one Subtractor (the synth we had back in Reason 1).

I commented that in reply to the video. He replied: "If you are knit picking every little update I mentioned you clearly missed the entire point of the video. And I Assure you that will never be on my level with sound design. How many people are buying your presets and synths?"

Misinformation is awful, as is being lazy. I can't stand it. Seeing someone fuss about this and that in a video and about their REs not being in hi-res and then not redo their video or not at least include pop-up notes to correct themselves... I bet they put just as much effort into making presets.

[EnochLight]

Misinformation is awful, as is being lazy. I can't stand it. Seeing someone fuss about this and that in a video and about their REs not being in hi-res and then not redo their video or not at least include pop-up notes to correct themselves... I bet they put just as much effort into making presets.

True, and that's the core of the issue - he can have the most logical argument, but if he flubs historical facts not once, not twice, but 4 times, and then doesn't have the fortitude to own his mistake instead of making a snarky "I make better presets than you" retort, then he's not looking like a person I want to refer to for information. Shit, there's a boatload of complaints and criticism in this very thread that has more merit than that!

[AttenuationHz]

Misinformation is awful, as is being lazy. I can't stand it. Seeing someone fuss about this and that in a video and about their REs not being in hi-res and then not redo their video or not at least include pop-up notes to correct themselves... I bet they put just as much effort into making presets.

True, and that's the core of the issue - he can have the most logical argument, but if he flubs historical facts not once, not twice, but 4 times, and then doesn't have the fortitude to own his mistake instead of making a snarky "I make better presets than you" retort, then he's not looking like a person I want to refer to for information. Shit, there's a boatload of complaints and criticism in this very thread that has more merit than that!

Wow, really? Talk about remaining impartial. It is comments like this why frustrations are shown in multiple threads. Your job as moderator is to minimise these interactions not inflate them. Keep your opinions as users private and stop making issues for everyone with comments you happen to disagree with in public. Useless moderators!!!

[nickb523]

Wow, really? Talk about remaining impartial. It is comments like this why frustrations are shown in multiple threads. Your job as moderator is to minimise these interactions not inflate them.

Agree.

Admin/Mods - You guys are supposed to be impartial community members so you should probably create alt accounts for the purpose of "banter". It's 2021 now and leveraging a power imbalance to control the status quo is considered controlling and abusive behaviour.

*cue Joeyluck with a dismissive comment followed by a cry laughing emoji*

Seriously guys, it's very much an issue here so please have a think and sort it out.

[avasopht]

Agree.

Admin/Mods - You guys are supposed to be impartial community members so you should probably create alt accounts for the purpose of "banter". It's 2021 now and leveraging a power imbalance to control the status quo is considered controlling and abusive behaviour.

*cue Joeyluck with a dismissive comment followed by a cry laughing emoji*

Seriously guys, it's very much an issue here so please have a think about it and sort it out.

Yes, but as an RE developer who earns an income from Reason Studios corp, you too have a conflict of interest, so must also refrain from making any personal commentary with immediate effect

[Faastwalker]

Agree.

Admin/Mods - You guys are supposed to be impartial community members so you should probably create alt accounts for the purpose of "banter". It's 2021 now and leveraging a power imbalance to control the status quo is considered controlling and abusive behaviour.

*cue Joeyluck with a dismissive comment followed by a cry laughing emoji*

Seriously guys, it's very much an issue here so please have a think about it and sort it out.

Yes, but as an RE developer who earns an income from Reason Studios corp, you too have a conflict of interest, so must also refrain from making any personal commentary with immediate effect

Lol. He’s got you there!

Seriously though, surely everyone is entitled to their opinion. As long as it’s civil I don’t see a problem.

[QVprod]

Wow, really? Talk about remaining impartial. It is comments like this why frustrations are shown in multiple threads. Your job as moderator is to minimise these interactions not inflate them.

Agree.

Admin/Mods - You guys are supposed to be impartial community members so you should probably create alt accounts for the purpose of "banter". It's 2021 now and leveraging a power imbalance to control the status quo is considered controlling and abusive behaviour.

Power imbalance where? And what abuse? If people were actually being banned or penalized for their opinions here you'd have a point. But seeing as none of that is going on here, there's no power imbalance. Perhaps we should turn off the spam control features and just be regular users. That would make a wonderful experience wouldn't it? We aren't employees here, so I don't see a need to be silent.

I think creating alt accounts would be very disingenuous. We don't allow that for other users, why would we allow it for ourselves? This isn't the only forum where mods chime in with their individual opinions. Heck, we even disagree with each other here and there.

Impartiality here is not withholding our opinions, but rather in not silencing people with negative opinions about Reason on a Reason fan site. We equally allow views from anyone to be shared here, positive or negative, to which any user (mods, RE developers...etc...) is allowed to respond to.

**For the record, disagreement does not count as silencing when we can delete posts. Most of this thread is practically dumping on RS and it's still open.

[EnochLight]

Wow, really? Talk about remaining impartial. It is comments like this why frustrations are shown in multiple threads. Your job as moderator is to minimise these interactions not inflate them. Keep your opinions as users private and stop making issues for everyone with comments you happen to disagree with in public. Useless moderators!!!

If you don’t like how I moderate or interact with other mods, then go away. If you think that moderators aren’t entitled to their own opinions, then go away. My job as a moderator is to ban trolls, weed through spam, and respond to reports from users. I couldn’t care less what you think we *SHOULD* do. You can be damn sure I’ll share my own opinion, agree with some people, and disagree with others. You’ve spent the better part of the last month being a cancer here. How about stop being so toxic and making all mods out to be anything less than users who are entitled to their own opinions?

Agree.

Admin/Mods - You guys are supposed to be impartial community members so you should probably create alt accounts for the purpose of "banter". It's 2021 now and leveraging a power imbalance to control the status quo is considered controlling and abusive behaviour.

*cue Joeyluck with a dismissive comment followed by a cry laughing emoji*

Seriously guys, it's very much an issue here so please have a think about it and sort it out.

Yes, but as an RE developer who earns an income from Reason Studios corp, you too have a conflict of interest, so must also refrain from making any personal commentary with immediate effect

^^ THIS ^^

Best to sit this one out, Nick.

[MarkTarlton]

what makes a great moderator?

Ease in interacting with people.

Ability to remain impartial, open, and unbiased.

Flexibility.

Strong verbal skills

Excited about the process of discovery.

Creating comfort and trust

Be an Active Listener

Remain Neutral yet Involved

Acknowledge and Respect

[AttenuationHz]

Agree.

Admin/Mods - You guys are supposed to be impartial community members so you should probably create alt accounts for the purpose of "banter". It's 2021 now and leveraging a power imbalance to control the status quo is considered controlling and abusive behaviour.

*cue Joeyluck with a dismissive comment followed by a cry laughing emoji*

Seriously guys, it's very much an issue here so please have a think about it and sort it out.

Thanks for your positive thoughts on the matter!

Yes, but as an RE developer who earns an income from Reason Studios corp, you too have a conflict of interest, so must also refrain from making any personal commentary with immediate effect

Hmm, such a disturb idea of the reality... not really, most likely already has an alt account so he can interact unprofessionally and or at the proper standard for a user. The same standard should be bestowed on moderators and admins alike, the same weight the comment has would not have come across from a user. You didn't see kenni interacting in any of the above ways because he knew about this standard, that would have been shitting on his own doorstep, hypocritical and basically a green light for toxic behaviour which is exactly what the above comment is. It doesn't belong on RT so stop doing it, stop shitting on the doorstep moderators and admin please do the job you're meant to be doing while remining impartial in discussions. You want to add value to a discussion or disagree on a certain point great, add a comment so you look like a user and don't take the piss by pretending to be a user when you're not or make other users try to guess what mode you're in from the point you want to get across. Lately you haven't exactly lived up to any sort of standards that normal users are following.

It just goes to show as an example how much weight a moderators comment hold over a discussion, a RE developer having to use his professional account to point out that it is basically abuse of power - for the fear of comments being addressed in such a way that it upsets the natural group dynamics, all the above comment does is place legitimate but negative comments outside of the group so it creates a new group - this side doesn't agree with this side etc, it's an out-group which is basically othering, everything in garden is definitely not rosy with Reason 12 don't pretend it is. Some users really don't help with this new group dynamic either, which has been created off the back of missing standards. Besides all of this the original comment was completely off topic for the thread, it had nothing to do with the new pricing, it was about incorrect facts about different releases in some random video. What leads to trouble in all threads, that's right off topic discussions.

Not too long ago there was a thread posted by a moderator, that whole thread should have been in this discussion, if any other user posted the thread it would have been moved quite possibly without it being reported.

[AttenuationHz]

If you don’t like how I moderate or interact with other mods, then go away. If you think that moderators aren’t entitled to their own opinions, then go away. My job as a moderator is to ban trolls, weed through spam, and respond to reports from users. I couldn’t care less what you think we *SHOULD* do. You can be damn sure I’ll share my own opinion, agree with some people, and disagree with others. You’ve spent the better part of the last month being a cancer here. How about stop being so toxic and making all mods out to be anything less than users who are entitled to their own opinions?

You've shown your true colours with that one I applaud you. Anyone please feel free to step in here, completely out of order!

[EnochLight]

You've shown your true colours with that one I applaud you. Anyone please feel free to step in here, completely out of order!

Have you been living under a rock? I’ve always shown my true colors.

Now, if we could get back on topic, maybe you could re-read the post you were snarkily responding to the first time and realize I was actually agreeing that many complaints in this this thread (about Reason) have merit. Or you could go right ahead and continue your drama and see where that gets you.

[RodneyImpah]

inflate them.

Agree.

Seriously guys, it's very much an issue here so please have a think and sort it out.

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