Yes, the envelope behaviour is different or at least it appears that way. I at least assume it could for example aswell be the filter reaction time causing Monotone to sound snappier or a combination or any overtime shaping potentially happening in the process. Then for example I learned about EQs having a reaction time aswell just recently, saying I´m not really experienced in that field yet.
Overall the difference between the two might initially appear very slight because they bascially sound quite similar in their behaviour and overall shape that can at first quite easily trick into thinking they sound the same. Then through listening closer the differences become more and more prominent perceptionwise.
Possibly like twins, where it can be hard to tell the difference at first potentially due to similarities dominating the impression psychologically, colouring, possibly masking perception. The detailed differences you get to discover by looking closer along a growing experience perceiving the two, unravel especially when you experience them in a variety of situations, bascially like receiving and implementing informations having been at least partially covered by the upper hand of similarities, working their way into perception.
The closer you look, the better you know them, the clearer the differences become, maybe even up to a point where you wonder how you could not ever have clearly seen these differences, though this could be a trick aswell because it might be due to focussing on these differences like listening to the result of an inverted channel phase cancellation, leaving out everything that actually is identical, though the final sound contains similarities and differences.
The doors of perception can be quite flexible.
Here it´s a learning process after all, refining perception, evening out deceptions, improving concious receptions, along incoporating informations broadening perspectives.
I find it being quite essential for mastering music production where it´s not only about perceiving itself but translating, connecting, adapting, adjusting, transferring and also applying its results in a resonating connection, fundamentally evolving one´s production qualities/capabilities.
Along this process I increasingly experience decreasing differences becoming increasingly crucial.
Potentially because when geting closer to the soundquality I aim for, the dynamic range of changes I can actually apply with the given tools to improve it decreases, comparable to using a coarse and a fine tune knob afterwards, shifting conciousness to a finer resolution level sensitising perception.
I feel music production and also learning musicproduction is like an overall tuning process anyway, accompanied by varying tastes, perceptions, moods and circumstances, refined by information, understanding, experience and practice, altered by ideas along evolving possibilites.
BRIGGS wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021
moofi wrote: ↑14 Nov 2021
In an A/B comparison you can hear a difference even though they sound quite similar. Montone is punchier, grittier and also appears cleaner. Aswell the resonance behaviour is different. Monotone is bubblier in liquidity terms. The first half is Thor, the second is Monotone:
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Thor-Monotone.mp3
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Saying if they are based on the same osc/filtermodel, Monotone´s is at least an altered, though I would even say improved version.
Could aswell be some internal post-processing though I don´t know if Montone´s bubbly filter resonance behaviour could be achieved that way.
The difference is very slight. I notice it more when making pluck sounds. Maybe there is an envelope difference too?
Thanks!
