UK Reason+ pricing

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CaptainBlack
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27 Jan 2021

As a UK user, it annoys me when the pricing structure seems to think that $20 equates to £20. It's actually just £14.61. Or if you prefer, £20 is $27.39.

Why does the UK get ripped off like this?

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27 Jan 2021

CaptainBlack wrote:
27 Jan 2021
As a UK user, it annoys me when the pricing structure seems to think that $20 equates to £20. It's actually just £14.61. Or if you prefer, £20 is $27.39.

Why does the UK get ripped off like this?
Not just the UK man...the whole of Europe.
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CaptainBlack wrote:
27 Jan 2021
As a UK user, it annoys me when the pricing structure seems to think that $20 equates to £20. It's actually just £14.61. Or if you prefer, £20 is $27.39.

Why does the UK get ripped off like this?
At least you don't have to buy it in Euros, my bank used to rob me silly for non standard currency even when we was part of the EU.

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Aosta
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27 Jan 2021

Do you really want the + in your name anymore Billy after this announcement?
Tend the flame

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Billy+
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27 Jan 2021

Mind you can someone in the UK even have an EU service? I thought all that stuff was still in the air?

Please understand this is not a political statement mods.

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Aosta wrote:
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Do you really want the + in your name anymore Billy after this announcement?
I thought he just added that.
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Billy+
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Aosta wrote:
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Do you really want the + in your name anymore Billy after this announcement?
I'm happy to keep it in my name I just don't want it on my rack my friend :thumbup:

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27 Jan 2021

Maybe one day I will change it to +perpetual, BUT NOT YET Joey! I'm happy with it as is for now thanks.

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27 Jan 2021

As a general rule, the US gets everything cheaper as a result of bulk buying power. It's entirely legit too, I've seen the numbers, they do genuinely buy a lot more stuff than everywhere else, and far more than the discount could ever account for, it's very pronounced actually.

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27 Jan 2021

Dollar pricing does not include tax. UK has 20% VAT.

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27 Jan 2021

Slightly unrelated, but I tell you what's even worse, if you live in Northern Ireland, still part of the UK, and you buy say a guitar from a big outlet in the UK, no free shipping because it only applies to the mainland UK 9 out of 10 times, can be up to a £20 add on. I've been buying guitars, amps, pedals, etc., and recently some music-related hardware from all over Europe because you get free shipping, and somehow it still gets here quicker than from England!!!!!
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28 Jan 2021

CaptainBlack wrote:
27 Jan 2021
As a UK user, it annoys me when the pricing structure seems to think that $20 equates to £20. It's actually just £14.61. Or if you prefer, £20 is $27.39.

Why does the UK get ripped off like this?
You can change your location in profile to be US and pay in dollars...
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28 Jan 2021

antic604 wrote:
28 Jan 2021
CaptainBlack wrote:
27 Jan 2021
As a UK user, it annoys me when the pricing structure seems to think that $20 equates to £20. It's actually just £14.61. Or if you prefer, £20 is $27.39.

Why does the UK get ripped off like this?
You can change your location in profile to be US and pay in dollars...
Bad advice. It's in fact tax evasion.
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Loque wrote:
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Bad advice. It's in fact tax evasion.
So is buying Reason upgrades from JRR Shop or Audiodeluxe, yet most Europeans on this forum, KvR, FB or Reddit do that.
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antic604 wrote:
28 Jan 2021
Loque wrote:
28 Jan 2021
Bad advice. It's in fact tax evasion.
So is buying Reason upgrades from JRR Shop or Audiodeluxe, yet most Europeans on this forum, KvR, FB or Reddit do that.
That is nonsense. Just that its a non EU shop and you buy from EU is not automatically tax evasion. They bill you automatically taxes. Ever checked your bill in detail?

But if you fake a different country to avoid taxes, well... You don't need to be too smart to understand, that this is tax evasion 😏
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28 Jan 2021

antic604 wrote:
28 Jan 2021
Loque wrote:
28 Jan 2021
Bad advice. It's in fact tax evasion.
So is buying Reason upgrades from JRR Shop or Audiodeluxe, yet most Europeans on this forum, KvR, FB or Reddit do that.
I don't know the specificities of how things are handled in other countries, but here in the US for instance, if I buy something from outside of my state and it doesn't include tax, I'm actually required to pay a use tax for that separately.

But also when you buy from those stores, are you using an address other than your own? If you are using your own address and it's doing conversions and adding taxes or not, then I think that's safe (and you may still need to figure if you owe taxes). But lying about your address though to avoid tax is a totally different thing, as Loque mentions—it's tax evasion.

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Loque wrote:
28 Jan 2021
antic604 wrote:
28 Jan 2021


So is buying Reason upgrades from JRR Shop or Audiodeluxe, yet most Europeans on this forum, KvR, FB or Reddit do that.
That is nonsense. Just that its a non EU shop and you buy from EU is not automatically tax evasion. They bill you automatically taxes. Ever checked your bill in detail?

But if you fake a different country to avoid taxes, well... You don't need to be too smart to understand, that this is tax evasion 😏
No, JRR or Audiodeluxe does not add tax even though I'm clearly stating I'm from Poland and they're (I think) US based.

And obviously I'm not encouraging anyone to lie to RS. Out of curiosity I tried changing my address to US to see if it changes the prices to USD few months ago and then asked support to revert it back to my actual address.

Please delete those posts, if you deem them inappropriate.
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antic604 wrote:
28 Jan 2021
Loque wrote:
28 Jan 2021

That is nonsense. Just that its a non EU shop and you buy from EU is not automatically tax evasion. They bill you automatically taxes. Ever checked your bill in detail?

But if you fake a different country to avoid taxes, well... You don't need to be too smart to understand, that this is tax evasion 😏
No, JRR or Audiodeluxe does not add tax even though I'm clearly stating I'm from Poland and they're (I think) US based.

And obviously I'm not encouraging anyone to lie to RS. Out of curiosity I tried changing my address to US to see if it changes the prices to USD few months ago and then asked support to revert it back to my actual address.

Please delete those posts, if you deem them inappropriate.
I am not sure if just talk or if you have checked your bills... Here is mine
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Loque wrote:
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I am not sure if just talk or if you have checked your bills... Here is mine
Sure I did. I can't check JRR, because all orders are lost after their website went down few months ago, but here's receipt from Audiodeluxe, for example:

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Loque wrote:
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I am not sure if just talk or if you have checked your bills... Here is mine
Actually found an JRR example in e-mail, too:

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Loque
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antic604 wrote:
28 Jan 2021
Loque wrote:
28 Jan 2021
I am not sure if just talk or if you have checked your bills... Here is mine
Sure I did. I can't check JRR, because all orders are lost after their website went down few months ago, but here's receipt from Audiodeluxe, for example:


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Suspicious. Looks like you need to pay taxes separately.
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Loque
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antic604 wrote:
28 Jan 2021
Loque wrote:
28 Jan 2021
I am not sure if just talk or if you have checked your bills... Here is mine
Actually found an JRR example in e-mail, too:


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The taxes are shown, they are just 0. What country did you ordered from?
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Loque wrote:
28 Jan 2021
antic604 wrote:
28 Jan 2021


Actually found an JRR example in e-mail, too:


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The taxes are shown, they are just 0. What country did you ordered from?
Poland.

And they'd laugh me off in the tax office if I came there saying I want to pay taxes on a VST or DAW :D
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Seckin
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28 Jan 2021

I wish that they would make it 20 Turkish Liras as well. 20 Turkish Liras equals 2.5 Euros these days :lol:
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antic604 wrote:
28 Jan 2021
Loque wrote:
28 Jan 2021

The taxes are shown, they are just 0. What country did you ordered from?
Poland.

And they'd laugh me off in the tax office if I came there saying I want to pay taxes on a VST or DAW :D
tbh, maybe some of the shops do not take the VAT for some reason and you just pay more for the product in the end and you are left out with the risk of tax evasion.
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