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[EnochLight]

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[Billy+]

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[EnochLight]

[Arjanders]

The five Kubler-Ross stages of grief of Reason Talk:

1. denial
2. anger
3. bargaining
4. depression
5. GIF's

[avasopht]

The five Kubler-Ross stages of grief of Reason Talk:

1. denial
2. anger
3. bargaining
4. depression
5. GIF's

6. Caving in

[WillyOD]

Mods can delete this post (as I'm sure they will, but hopefully someone reads this before that), didn't feel like creating a new thread and this is a bit off-topic.

I just realized the main problem here on these forums:
It's not people caring about Reason "complaining". (Not every complaint or request is an attack that a moderator has to immediately step in and defend.)

It's that the moderators seem to have a need to be part of *EVERY* discussion. About every third or fourth post in about every thread is by a moderator. I think there are MANY moments when the mods should just take a step back and have the "regular" forum users have a discussion.

I don't want a mod stepping in and defending Reason Studios like they're on the payroll. I want to have a discussion with other Reason users. I don't want everyone agreeing me but I don't want to be force-fed opinions. This happens a lot especially with few mods (you can probably identify yourselves from reading this, hopefully...)

Just my thoughts and once again taking a step back from these forums and hopefully get into exploring the Suite.

Sorry for this but I think I'm super right and felt like posting it after finally realizing why I'm not comfortable hanging around these forums anymore. It used to be for knowledge but now... it's just mods praising 99% of Reason Studios' decisions (and memes) and I haven't learned or read much interesting stuff here lately.

Selig feels like the only true moderator here, and I'm not sure if he's even mod anymore (or has ever been)

[moneykube]

Mods can delete this post (as I'm sure they will, but hopefully someone reads this before that), didn't feel like creating a new thread and this is a bit off-topic.

I just realized the main problem here on these forums:
It's not people caring about Reason "complaining". (Not every complaint or request is an attack that a moderator has to immediately step in and defend.)

It's that the moderators seem to have a need to be part of *EVERY* discussion. About every third or fourth post in about every thread is by a moderator. I think there are MANY moments when the mods should just take a step back and have the "regular" forum users have a discussion.

I don't want a mod stepping in and defending Reason Studios like they're on the payroll. I want to have a discussion with other Reason users. I don't want everyone agreeing me but I don't want to be force-fed opinions. This happens a lot especially with few mods (you can probably identify yourselves from reading this, hopefully...)

Just my thoughts and once again taking a step back from these forums and hopefully get into exploring the Suite.

Sorry for this but I think I'm super right and felt like posting it after finally realizing why I'm not comfortable hanging around these forums anymore. It used to be for knowledge but now... it's just mods praising 99% of Reason Studios' decisions (and memes) and I haven't learned or read much interesting stuff here lately.

Selig feels like the only true moderator here, and I'm not sure if he's even mod anymore (or has ever been)

AGREED ! They will need to delete this post as well.The subscription service isn't the issue. it is all the bugs that have been introduced to reason since they stopped focusing on the DAW to make money on the subscription service ! What are we up to now? At least 5 confirmed bugs by multiple users... somehow this is ok? I came here for knowledge from users of reason, updates on products, and in the process made a number of friends here that I collaborate with.I agree that this forum has lost it's focus.SMH >>>> IT IS TIME FOR RS to get it together !!!!

[QVprod]

Mods can delete this post (as I'm sure they will, but hopefully someone reads this before that), didn't feel like creating a new thread and this is a bit off-topic.

I just realized the main problem here on these forums:
It's not people caring about Reason "complaining". (Not every complaint or request is an attack that a moderator has to immediately step in and defend.)

It's that the moderators seem to have a need to be part of *EVERY* discussion. About every third or fourth post in about every thread is by a moderator. I think there are MANY moments when the mods should just take a step back and have the "regular" forum users have a discussion.

I don't want a mod stepping in and defending Reason Studios like they're on the payroll. I want to have a discussion with other Reason users. I don't want everyone agreeing me but I don't want to be force-fed opinions. This happens a lot especially with few mods (you can probably identify yourselves from reading this, hopefully...)

Just my thoughts and once again taking a step back from these forums and hopefully get into exploring the Suite.

Sorry for this but I think I'm super right and felt like posting it after finally realizing why I'm not comfortable hanging around these forums anymore. It used to be for knowledge but now... it's just mods praising 99% of Reason Studios' decisions (and memes) and I haven't learned or read much interesting stuff here lately.

Selig feels like the only true moderator here, and I'm not sure if he's even mod anymore (or has ever been)

There’s a perception issue here. As has been stated many times. Mods are users. A difference of opinion here is not moderation, it’s just user participation. We don’t get paid (it’s a volunteer gig), can’t participate in challenges, spend a lot of time cleaning up spam so you guys don’t see it, keep drama and toxicity to a minimum, and you want mods to not post... why would we come here at all?

There is no rule to say our opinions regarding Reason are law, you’re free to disagree, so no ones being “force fed” anything. We’re Reason users just like everyone else here. Our opinions are all our own (independent of each other) and not representative of Reason Studios. Any defense of Reason is because this is a Reason fan site - we’re fans.

[Billy+]

I see your knocking

And play my joker

[gullum]

It's that the moderators seem to have a need to be part of *EVERY* discussion. About every third or fourth post in about every thread is by a moderator. I think there are MANY moments when the mods should just take a step back and have the "regular" forum users have a discussion.

they are users just like you and me and the reason some of them become mods is simply because they spent a lot of their time here, so they become a opiouse candidate to becoming a mod

[EnochLight]

It's that the moderators seem to have a need to be part of *EVERY* discussion. About every third or fourth post in about every thread is by a moderator. I think there are MANY moments when the mods should just take a step back and have the "regular" forum users have a discussion.

I don't want a mod stepping in and defending Reason Studios like they're on the payroll. I want to have a discussion with other Reason users. I don't want everyone agreeing me but I don't want to be force-fed opinions. This happens a lot especially with few mods (you can probably identify yourselves from reading this, hopefully...)

AGREED ! They will need to delete this post as well.

QVprod said it most eloquently:

There’s a perception issue here. As has been stated many times. Mods are users. A difference of opinion here is not moderation, it’s just user participation. We don’t get paid (it’s a volunteer gig), can’t participate in challenges, spend a lot of time cleaning up spam so you guys don’t see it, keep drama and toxicity to a minimum, and you want mods to not post... why would we come here at all?

There is no rule to say our opinions regarding Reason are law, you’re free to disagree, so no ones being “force fed” anything. We’re Reason users just like everyone else here. Our opinions are all our own (independent of each other) and not representative of Reason Studios. Any defense of Reason is because this is a Reason fan site - we’re fans.

^^ THIS X1000 ^^

Not sure why this is so hard to grasp by some people. Yeah we're mods, but we're users and fans first and foremost just like every one of you. Seeing as how some seem so misled to believe they're being censored, it seems strange you'd want us to be censored.

Anyway, can we please keep this thread on topic? Air your grievances with mods or how this place is moderated via PM to us. Thanks.

[Billy+]

All done?

[stp2015]

^^ THIS X1000 ^^
Not sure why this is so hard to grasp by some people. Yeah we're mods, but we're users and fans first and foremost just like every one of you. Seeing as how some seem so misled to believe they're being censored, it seems strange you'd want us to be censored.

Anyway, can we please keep this thread on topic? Air your grievances with mods or how this place is moderated via PM to us. Thanks.

I want to chime in on this. I do not always agree with the Mods and the way some of them phrase their opinions on this board. Sometimes I disagree very strongly

However, as long as they do not actually censor others when there is disagreement, I don't see a fundamental issue. Problems start when mods abuse their power, but I have not really seen any evidence for that.

The only grievance I have with the post I am quoting here is the last sentence. The request to air grievances via PM. This is not ok. Everyone should be able to complain about the behavior of mods in "public", not just in PMs. There should probably be a dedicated place for this, maybe a sticky. One could argue as usual in threads, but if the argument becomes to "meta" and might derail a thread completely, you go to the sticky and voice your concern about mod behavior there. Or do we already have sticky for that?

[Arjanders]

The five Kubler-Ross stages of grief of Reason Talk:

1. denial
2. anger
3. bargaining
4. depression
5. GIF's

6. Caving in

7. canalise anger to mods

[DaveyG]

Is Donald Duck quotes still acceptable?

I think it's now acceptable again because he's no longer president.

[Billy+]

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[EnochLight]

OK, last chance for us to get this back on topic. Maybe it's time to put this thread out to pasture and lock it?

[Billy+]

OK, last chance for us to get this back on topic. Maybe it's time to put this thread out to pasture and lock it?

Let's start again
Delete it all

[Faastwalker]

OK, last chance for us to get this back on topic. Maybe it's time to put this thread out to pasture and lock it?

Maybe. It's a hugely controversial thing Reason Studios have rolled out. But I think everything must have been said by now. If anything changes it will resurface again. I'm cool with it as long as it doesn't become the only way and if they do keep developing the platform as they say they will. I'd imagine most people feel more or less the same on those points. Case closed

[guitfnky]

I think we should have 92 pages of debate on whether the thread should be locked, and then it should be locked.

[orthodox]

OK, last chance for us to get this back on topic. Maybe it's time to put this thread out to pasture and lock it?

Why lock, just unpin it and let it sink. It has served its purpose as a dust collector, nobody seems to have had anything to say of late.

[EnochLight]

OK, last chance for us to get this back on topic. Maybe it's time to put this thread out to pasture and lock it?

Why lock, just unpin it and let it sink. It has served its purpose as a dust collector, nobody seems to have had anything to say of late.

That’s not a bad idea actually.

[guitfnky]

ha, this thread was pinned? why?

[joeyluck]

Lol it's only pinned because we always keep pinned the latest update. So when this next bug fix update is released, it will get pinned and this thread can (maybe) fade away.

[Melody303]

I still want the shop link to return to its prominence instead of being relegated to the bottom of the page. They need to stop discouraging the 3rd party developers.