Imported mp3 Ref Track is Clipping??

[StrokerX]

Just when I thought I had it all figured out. I swear i've read all about clipping and watched the tutorials and I thought as long as these guys weren't in the red you were good. But I've just imported a reference track and from the looks of it, it's mega clipping right?

I'm mostly worried about that bottom right out meter i was always taught that's a No No if it's Red. Does that mean there's clipping and I just can't hear it so it doesn't matter? One day i'll get this..

Thanks in advance for any tips yall.

[deeplink]

Do you have any LP or HP filters enabled on the track?

[deeplink]

Also keep in mind it's not issue when the VU meter goes in the red. More about the PPM hitting the red right at the top (master bus channel)

[Karim]

It will clip in every DAW .
Is how Mp3 works .
If you import a mp3 in Ableton, logic or Cubase it will clip too.

[Karim]

Let's give a shot here.

Cheers

[Billy+]

Just when I thought I had it all figured out. I swear i've read all about clipping and watched the tutorials and I thought as long as these guys weren't in the red you were good. But I've just imported a reference track and from the looks of it, it's mega clipping right?

I'm mostly worried about that bottom right out meter i was always taught that's a No No if it's Red. Does that mean there's clipping and I just can't hear it so it doesn't matter? One day i'll get this..

Thanks in advance for any tips yall.

Red is not "wrong" unless it's the very top clip indicator.

Did you convert the reference track to MP3?

Are you trying to find out if the track is clipped or the channel/master bus?

[StrokerX]

Let's give a shot here.

Cheers

aHA! Eeeeenteresting. Yes it was an MP3.

Good to know, thanks!

[PhillipOrdonez]

MP3 encoding will add a dB or 2, always.

I don't know but I myself master with this in mind so I will have a -1dbtp on the limiter to account for this if the track will be encoded into MP3 down the line.

[antic604]

Red is not "wrong" unless it's the very top clip indicator.

Which he shows is the case...

[Kalm]

MP3 encoding will add a dB or 2, always.

I don't know but I myself master with this in mind so I will have a -1dbtp on the limiter to account for this if the track will be encoded into MP3 down the line.

This, anytime the master is near 0 dB it'll clip. But its an MP3 and no one cares anyways. I stopped putting a lot of thought into MP3s honestly

[StrokerX]

MP3 encoding will add a dB or 2, always.

I don't know but I myself master with this in mind so I will have a -1dbtp on the limiter to account for this if the track will be encoded into MP3 down the line.

This, anytime the master is near 0 dB it'll clip. But its an MP3 and no one cares anyways. I stopped putting a lot of thought into MP3s honestly

Thankyou to everyone for the responses I'm def learning here...

You think just cause causal listeners prolly wont hear the difference? I'm wondering the true difference between a legit good listen and if these things actually make a difference.

For instance this was a song from Sigrid called High Five and if her mp3 clips does that mean her producers didn't leave enough headroom? It's a high quality professional song. Is this maybe something that happened when I converted it from aiff to mp3?

[PhillipOrdonez]

This, anytime the master is near 0 dB it'll clip. But its an MP3 and no one cares anyways. I stopped putting a lot of thought into MP3s honestly

Thankyou to everyone for the responses I'm def learning here...

You think just cause causal listeners prolly wont hear the difference? I'm wondering the true difference between a legit good listen and if these things actually make a difference.

For instance this was a song from Sigrid called High Five and if her mp3 clips does that mean her producers didn't leave enough headroom? It's a high quality professional song. Is this maybe something that happened when I converted it from aiff to mp3?

Again. Converting to MP3 will always add a certain amount of dB. It is how it works. And the lower the quality of the encoding, the more dB will be added.

[Kalm]

Thankyou to everyone for the responses I'm def learning here...

You think just cause causal listeners prolly wont hear the difference? I'm wondering the true difference between a legit good listen and if these things actually make a difference.

For instance this was a song from Sigrid called High Five and if her mp3 clips does that mean her producers didn't leave enough headroom? It's a high quality professional song. Is this maybe something that happened when I converted it from aiff to mp3?

Again. Converting to MP3 will always add a certain amount of dB. It is how it works. And the lower the quality of the encoding, the more dB will be added.

Correct, when the signal has to be reconstructed, inevitably the converter will always attempt reproducing a "wave", no individual bits. Therefor if the bit values are clipped off near 0dB, then the peak of the reconstructed wave inevitably has to be louder than 0 dB FS. Casually listeners won't hear the difference unless they're sensitive to high frequencies or listen to music on huge bass systems. MP3 can sometimes sound like "I thought this use to have more bass. . . such and such". Most listeners these days just want the song and their systems aren't that great (i.e. no better than apple ear pods or worst)