20 Years of Reason: Goodie Bag

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Loque
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Post 17 Nov 2020

Despondo wrote:
17 Nov 2020
I guess nobody noticed that the HD version of the NN-19 will be wireless. No more pesky cables since they removed the jacks on the back. LOL!!!
The wires and jacks are added by Reason.
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Post 17 Nov 2020

MattiasHG wrote:
17 Nov 2020
esselfortium wrote:
17 Nov 2020
The hi-res device previews are looking great! I'm pleasantly surprised that they still look like themselves.
Indeed, that's always an interesting balance! We thought it was important that they still felt like "real devices", you just finally saw a mint condition version up close in good lighting ;)
Amazing work guys! They look fantastic!! +1 that they still look like themselves. ❤️

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Post 17 Nov 2020

I just downloaded it, saw the folder and jumped on here - looking amazing. I am so pleased to still be a Reason user after 20 years despite a short break. Heck I even deleted Logic Pro X today as I just don't use it compared with Reason as nothing gets me in the creative flow. I remember pouring over every detail and every .plan update before V1 was released and just seeing what was thousands of pounds worth of virtual instruments running on just a computer, no DSP cards needed, no nighty CPU just a normal computer - it seemed like the future and I guess it was. It is well worth visiting the mighty old propellerhead.se site on archive.org to see how things played out. I still have the original small square v1 box somewhere which is a piece of art in itself!

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Post 17 Nov 2020

Looks nice! Will they be scalable like IK TR5s?

Yesterday I made an NN-19 multi-sample patch, when finished I had neck pain and had to wipe off nose marks from the monitor :shock: . With a BIG NN-19 I can instead lean backwards and still see well. Very happy this is not the Waves, "only scale up a low res pict for a fuzzy image" type thing. Good decision RS!
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Post 17 Nov 2020

MattiasHG wrote:
17 Nov 2020
adfielding wrote:
17 Nov 2020
Well there's something in there that I wasn't expecting to see - oh Mattias, you sly dog, you :)
Oops! :silent:
Bless your soul.
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arnigretar
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Post 17 Nov 2020

Great to receive the goodie bag today. Really thankful for Reason and the community. I have been part of it since the good ol' ReBIrth days and was a beta tester of Reason 1.0. Remember it all like it was yesterday. And on that note I want to thank each and everyone on this forum. I was a regular on the old forum - and I have been regular here also. But I haven't been communicating - just an observer. I will try to change that, because I feel like all our voices need to be heard. Thankful for this community and glad to see the high res pictures. Made my heart feel good. All the best

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Post 17 Nov 2020

This confirms no new features for older rack devices. I hope they touch up the main mixer so its compatible with the blue and dark themes.

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Post 17 Nov 2020

MattiasHG wrote:
17 Nov 2020
esselfortium wrote:
17 Nov 2020
The hi-res device previews are looking great! I'm pleasantly surprised that they still look like themselves.
Indeed, that's always an interesting balance! We thought it was important that they still felt like "real devices", you just finally saw a mint condition version up close in good lighting ;)
im thinking of upgrading to 11 on black friday is this hi res thing coming soon will there be a grace period cheers

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Post 18 Nov 2020

fieldframe wrote:
17 Nov 2020
MattiasHG wrote:
17 Nov 2020


Indeed, that's always an interesting balance! We thought it was important that they still felt like "real devices", you just finally saw a mint condition version up close in good lighting ;)
I'm intrigued by some of the thoughts around typography. Redrum's displays are the original, aliased 7-pixel font, which makes complete sense as Redrum clearly has LED dot-matrix displays that wouldn't be high-resolution. NN-19, meanwhile, has a vector font, which does render at high resolution.

It looks a little less realistic to have what amounts to a Retina display on a vintage sampler, but I'm guessing this is because after a certain point, you don't want to force all custom displays in the rack to render at 1x? I can imagine how, on some custom-display-heavy devices like Synchronous, a "realistic" low-res display might ultimately be less desirable than just having all the device's graphics render at the same sharpness, even if some of them are "screen" and others are "the hardware."
Good question and good catch! The display fonts on NN19 are actually placeholder in this preview, they'll be more akin to what you're saying—a dot matrix display. :)

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Post 18 Nov 2020

This made my week honestly. Smiling from ear to ear when I saw the high res previews. Thanks!

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Post 18 Nov 2020

MattiasHG wrote:
17 Nov 2020
esselfortium wrote:
17 Nov 2020
The hi-res device previews are looking great! I'm pleasantly surprised that they still look like themselves.
Indeed, that's always an interesting balance! We thought it was important that they still felt like "real devices", you just finally saw a mint condition version up close in good lighting ;)
I'd be very excited to see NN-XT and Thor in these formats as well! Reason is definitely due for the graphics overhaul and it's been great to know you guys are working on it.

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Post 18 Nov 2020

fieldframe wrote:
17 Nov 2020

I'm intrigued by some of the thoughts around typography. Redrum's displays are the original, aliased 7-pixel font, which makes complete sense as Redrum clearly has LED dot-matrix displays that wouldn't be high-resolution. NN-19, meanwhile, has a vector font, which does render at high resolution.
These are preview renders using new hi-res bitmaps, but most displays will be drawn programmatically and are not really part of the bitmaps.
I.e. the displays won't look exactly like this.

/ LudvigC

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Post 18 Nov 2020

MattiasHG wrote:
17 Nov 2020
esselfortium wrote:
17 Nov 2020
The hi-res device previews are looking great! I'm pleasantly surprised that they still look like themselves.
Indeed, that's always an interesting balance! We thought it was important that they still felt like "real devices", you just finally saw a mint condition version up close in good lighting ;)
Are they supposed to become more CPU hungry ? That worries me a lot ;)

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Post 18 Nov 2020

Michaellos wrote:
18 Nov 2020
MattiasHG wrote:
17 Nov 2020


Indeed, that's always an interesting balance! We thought it was important that they still felt like "real devices", you just finally saw a mint condition version up close in good lighting ;)
Are they supposed to become more CPU hungry ? That worries me a lot ;)
No. GUI rendering will be offloaded to GPU, so you should actually get more CPU time for audio compared to current version, which "draws" the GUI with CPU and only sends the final composited image for displaying to GPU :)
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Post 18 Nov 2020

antic604 wrote:
18 Nov 2020
Michaellos wrote:
18 Nov 2020

Are they supposed to become more CPU hungry ? That worries me a lot ;)
No. GUI rendering will be offloaded to GPU, so you should actually get more CPU time for audio compared to current version, which "draws" the GUI with CPU and only sends the final composited image for displaying to GPU :)
Will it cause problems if you’ve got a crap graphics card?
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Post 18 Nov 2020

MrFigg wrote:
18 Nov 2020
antic604 wrote:
18 Nov 2020


No. GUI rendering will be offloaded to GPU, so you should actually get more CPU time for audio compared to current version, which "draws" the GUI with CPU and only sends the final composited image for displaying to GPU :)
Will it cause problems if you’ve got a crap graphics card?
No, I don't think so. Rendering GUI of a DAW is the kind of work that even embedded GPUs on Intel iX chips should handle with ease at 60fps, unless you're planning to use 3x 4K screens perhaps. Dedicated GPUs, no matter how old, are orders of magnitude faster.
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Post 18 Nov 2020

Nice goodie bag!!! Had fun with it..... Jump in Reason at version 4 - used it for a while, then exclusively used Cubase, later on Ableton Live Suite and now since last year November I use Reason 11 suite again. I like the way it works and does it most for me. Live suite is fun too, but not as much fun as Reason.
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Post 18 Nov 2020

MattiasHG wrote:
18 Nov 2020
Good question and good catch! The display fonts on NN19 are actually placeholder in this preview, they'll be more akin to what you're saying—a dot matrix display. :)
LudvigC wrote:
18 Nov 2020
These are preview renders using new hi-res bitmaps, but most displays will be drawn programmatically and are not really part of the bitmaps.
I.e. the displays won't look exactly like this.
Given that the NN-19 display was literally the only thing I was a little iffy about, this is great to know!

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Post 18 Nov 2020

The updated renders look promising. Kudos guys. Nice wallpaper edits.. / Feeling old lol.
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Post 18 Nov 2020

Neo wrote:
18 Nov 2020
Feeling old lol.
Tell me about it. Been since version 2 and remember the unboxing like it was yesterday. That says a lot bc my memory is pretty bad.

The previews look amazing. My little ones look all grown up :prouddadcry:

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Post 18 Nov 2020

Thank you! :puf_smile:

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Post 18 Nov 2020

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Post 18 Nov 2020

Everyone at RS: This is great! And thank you for all your work!

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Post 18 Nov 2020

What I was hoping for in the goodie bag was a DAW called Reason that isn't 10 years behind the times and is being actively developed and isn't going to charge me for upgrades. Oh I already have that goodie bag! It's called Logic. Maybe RS should hire some programmers instead of wallpaper and GIF makers.

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Post 18 Nov 2020

kuhliloach wrote:
18 Nov 2020
What I was hoping for in the goodie bag was a DAW called Reason that isn't 10 years behind the times and is being actively developed and isn't going to charge me for upgrades. Oh I already have that goodie bag! It's called Logic. Maybe RS should hire some programmers instead of wallpaper and GIF makers.
We are all happy that you found your goody bag, but still make the effort to come back to tell us. :puf_bigsmile:

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