Hardware Subtractor (Poll)

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Would You Buy a Hardware Subtractor

Yes
31
34%
No
51
57%
Maybe
8
9%
 
Total votes: 90
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Creativemind
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13 Aug 2020

Hi Everyone!

I would love to see a hardware version of Subtractor.

Who would buy one?

I'm not talking about a controller either. There is an image of a controller (like a mouse matt style) knocking about online. I mean an actual physical hardware version you can use outside of Reason or within.

Pick one option in the poll.

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13 Aug 2020

Lovely to see this forum agree on something <3

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13 Aug 2020

I mean, it’s a cool idea, but it would have to be made really well, but also ridiculously affordable (think like $50 or less) to be worthwhile, given the glut of other amazing hardware synths out there.
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13 Aug 2020

guitfnky wrote:
13 Aug 2020
I mean, it’s a cool idea, but it would have to be made really well, but also ridiculously affordable (think like $50 or less) to be worthwhile, given the glut of other amazing hardware synths out there.
Think about £250 ($326) would be a fair price and would sound better 'cause it's analogue. :lol: I should've included Thor in the same thread. Thor would probably have to be analogue / digital wouldn't it?

Why so cheap?
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13 Aug 2020

I would buy a hardware unit that could host REs.

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13 Aug 2020

Zac wrote:
13 Aug 2020
I would buy a hardware unit that could host REs.
How would that work or do you mean just a controller like the Subtractor one?
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13 Aug 2020

If it was analogue, it wouldn't be Subtractor. It would just be a hardware analogue synth that happened to use the same interface as Subtractor. Subtractor is as digital as dial-up. It has an olden-times non-zero-delay-feedback digital filter. It has a "low bandwidth" button to add extra digitals. It has wavetables.

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EdGrip wrote:
13 Aug 2020
If it was analogue, it wouldn't be Subtractor. It would just be a hardware analogue synth that happened to use the same interface as Subtractor. Subtractor is as digital as dial-up. It has an olden-times non-zero-delay-feedback digital filter. It has a "low bandwidth" button to add extra digitals. It has wavetables.
I suppose you're right yeah. It would still be cool though and I'm sure it would sound nice.
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13 Aug 2020

Creativemind wrote:
13 Aug 2020
Zac wrote:
13 Aug 2020
I would buy a hardware unit that could host REs.
How would that work or do you mean just a controller like the Subtractor one?
I just mean that a digital box that could host RE instruments and fx would be of great interest to me. It could have a few assignable buttons/sliders/knobs but you could only cover a few basics at a time without reassignment due to the variety of REs but if it was designed with a specific midi keyboard in mind that would open up more parameters that could be assigned at one time.

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13 Aug 2020

Give me a hardware box that hosts combinators AND has 8 macro knobs and we're talkin' .

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Billy+
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13 Aug 2020

I guess a 3D printed case with a Pi4 + dac head running the core code would be cool, but the case would be the most expensive part and RS are never going to release the actual code to produce it.

I think the Deadmau5 cgi version of Serum was cool, and I definitely would have sold shit to buy that.

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13 Aug 2020

Maybe a hardware Redrum, too? Unless the tr-08/09's can also load samples???...IDK
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13 Aug 2020

Creativemind wrote:
13 Aug 2020
guitfnky wrote:
13 Aug 2020
I mean, it’s a cool idea, but it would have to be made really well, but also ridiculously affordable (think like $50 or less) to be worthwhile, given the glut of other amazing hardware synths out there.
Think about £250 ($326) would be a fair price and would sound better 'cause it's analogue. :lol: I should've included Thor in the same thread. Thor would probably have to be analogue / digital wouldn't it?

Why so cheap?
noooooooooo way I’d pay that much for a hardware Subtractor. as others have pointed out, it’s a digital synth. it sounds good, but for that kind of money, you can get something much better sounding than Subtractor, and probably a lot more flexible. the cachet of being able to say I’ve got a physical version is definitely not worth an extra $275 above what I think a hardware version would actually be worth to me.
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14 Aug 2020

BRIGGS wrote:
13 Aug 2020
Maybe a hardware Redrum, too? Unless the tr-08/09's can also load samples???...IDK
The TR-8S can.

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DaveyG
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14 Aug 2020

Get yourself over to Behringer and take you pick of a selection of subtractive synths at sensible prices.

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bxbrkrz
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14 Aug 2020

I voted yes. :puf_smile:

Why not?

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14 Aug 2020

DaveyG wrote:
14 Aug 2020
Get yourself over to Behringer and take you pick of a selection of subtractive synths at sensible prices.
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BRIGGS wrote:
13 Aug 2020
Maybe a hardware Redrum, too? Unless the tr-08/09's can also load samples???...IDK
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14 Aug 2020

Yes. Not even a hesitation.
And that's not even thor.
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15 Aug 2020

Oquasec wrote:
14 Aug 2020
Yes. Not even a hesitation.
And that's not even thor.
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15 Aug 2020

How about a physical rack that you could mount it in shaped like Combinator? Then I’d consider it

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groggy1 wrote:
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How about a physical rack that you could mount it in shaped like Combinator? Then I’d consider it
But synths like Subtractor wouldn't work properly in a rackmount unless you were thinking of a surface type thing, not sure I'm following you correctly here?
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Creativemind wrote:
15 Aug 2020
groggy1 wrote:
15 Aug 2020
How about a physical rack that you could mount it in shaped like Combinator? Then I’d consider it
But synths like Subtractor wouldn't work properly in a rackmount unless you were thinking of a surface type thing, not sure I'm following you correctly here?
I was picturing it as a 4U (7") height synth that would be rack-mounted. Checkout Novation SuperNova RackMount 4U as an example. I.e. all the physical knobs on the front.

If it was like that, I was thinking that the rack that you buy could be made to look like a Combinator, by painting it white, and having a few knobs/buttons at the top of the rackmount, just like a Combinator. Hope that's clear

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15 Aug 2020

I don't know what's a better idea. A hardware subtractor or a 48 inch long vertical rackmount
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16 Aug 2020

I don't get the hardware synth's hype. I mean playing live you need to turn knobs and re patch cables between every song. I think of it like I would need to restring my guitar in between every song.

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