How long do you think it will take to update reason to work on ARM Macs?

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Post 29 Jun 2020

bxbrkrz wrote:
29 Jun 2020


This is nothing new. The pattern is clear. Here is an old article from 2015. They will never stop.
Sure, I’ve been around since cassette drives and floppies and have seen this trend developing for a couple of decades at least. It is an inevitable consequence of ruinous corporate psychopaths. They do it to everything. Even punk wasn’t safe from the corporations. Interesting article though, thanks
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Post 29 Jun 2020

Bjørn Felle wrote:
29 Jun 2020
bxbrkrz wrote:
29 Jun 2020


This is nothing new. The pattern is clear. Here is an old article from 2015. They will never stop.
Sure, I’ve been around since cassette drives and floppies and have seen this trend developing for a couple of decades at least. It is an inevitable consequence of ruinous corporate psychopaths. They do it to everything. Even punk wasn’t safe from the corporations. Interesting article though, thanks
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Post 30 Jun 2020

One positive thing to come out of the followup interviews with Apple engineers after WWDC was that they want to ensure the Mac remains a computer open to tweaking and experimentation where users can even totally disable SIP (system integrity protection) if they wish. They understand and want to preserve the distinction between Mac and iPad.
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Post 01 Jul 2020

Billy wrote:
23 Jun 2020


Hi Mattias, so does this mean that Mac will have multiple versions of download one for intel one for arm or will old OS / Intel hardware be dropped?
Apple is encouraging developers to make Universal Binaries.
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Post 01 Jul 2020

buddard wrote:
24 Jun 2020

Porting the REs will be the easiest part, I think. They're already stored in a platform-independent LLVM format, it's just a matter of recompiling them for the new architecture.

I believe there are REs that use SSE instructions. Not sure how well those translate over to the ARM equivalent extensions. Some VSTs use AVX2 as far I'm aware the Apple Silicon does not support the ARM version of that yet.

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Post 01 Jul 2020

miscend wrote:
01 Jul 2020
buddard wrote:
24 Jun 2020

Porting the REs will be the easiest part, I think. They're already stored in a platform-independent LLVM format, it's just a matter of recompiling them for the new architecture.

I believe there are REs that use SSE instructions. Not sure how well those translate over to the ARM equivalent extensions. Some VSTs use AVX2 as far I'm aware the Apple Silicon does not support the ARM version of that yet.
I’m pretty sure that Apple Silicon supports the SSE instructions that are supported by LLVM. It only seems to be the newer instruction sets that are not (yet) supported.

So hopefully the conversion should go smoothly for all REs. 😊

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