Don’t hit me, but i have to(!) output in 432 Hz... (please read)

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pummelfee
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06 Dec 2019

Hello!

I don’t want to discuss the pros and cons about 432 Hz and also not about any conspiracys... It is a pure technical challange.

I have to edit spoken meditation tracks and compose some soundtrack for them. The customer is a friend of mine and he wants every track also in 432 Hz, because his customers are asking for this.

However, instead of converting a 440 Hz Wav, i would prefer to do this directly in Reason so that i do not have any loss in sound quality.

For the tracks i usually use one or two audiotracks for nature sounds and two or three synths or sampler instrumets.

Do you think the nature sounds have also to be tuned to the lower frequency? How would you do this? Bounce the tracks and then turn down the pitch -1,81%...?

Any help is appreciated!

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06 Dec 2019

Change global tuning in the preferences.
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06 Dec 2019

I don't think you need to tune the nature sounds.

Use global tuning like Loque said. I don't remember if it does the current Hz when you tune it, and it is in cents, so using a spectrum analyser that displays Hz whilst playing a 440hz A and check the spectrum as you tune it down til it is the way you need it, should work. Melda has a free analyser that does the job in their free plugins bundle.

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06 Dec 2019

pummelfee wrote:
06 Dec 2019

Do you think the nature sounds have also to be tuned to the lower frequency? How would you do this? Bounce the tracks and then turn down the pitch -1,81%...?
Dunno mate. What frequency is the nature originally tuned to? You can't make a decision until you know that. Find out.

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06 Dec 2019

If nature is already 432Hz and you tune it down, you'll be doing more harm than good.

Can you run the nature through a tuner plugin? There's one built in to Reason if you hit Ctrl+F3. That should clear things up.

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Change the global tuning.

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The nature sounds, I’m assuming, are nature sounds which have been recorded and so sound like they sound in nature. In that case you won’t get more natural than that. So no...don’t tune ‘em because then they won’t be at the natural frequency they’re supposed to be at. :)
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06 Dec 2019

-31 cents in the Master Tuning within Preferences is my estimate

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Are nature sounds the same as pet sounds?
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EnochLight wrote:
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Are nature sounds the same as pet sounds?
... and if so do they make you Smile ?

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MrFigg wrote:
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The nature sounds, I’m assuming, are nature sounds which have been recorded and so sound like they sound in nature. In that case you won’t get more natural than that. So no...don’t tune ‘em because then they won’t be at the natural frequency they’re supposed to be at. :)
This. Also they might get lower than you expect and end up unnatural. I wouldn't touch nature sounds tuning.

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Zac wrote:
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EnochLight wrote:
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Are nature sounds the same as pet sounds?
... and if so do they make you Smile ?
Here’s something you maybe didn’t know about those sons of beaches. They ripped off Charlie.

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MrFigg wrote:
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Zac wrote:
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... and if so do they make you Smile ?
Here’s something you maybe didn’t know about those sons of beaches. They ripped off Charlie.

I actually learned about this for the first time in Tarantino’s “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”. :lol:
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EnochLight wrote:
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MrFigg wrote:
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Here’s something you maybe didn’t know about those sons of beaches. They ripped off Charlie.

I actually learned about this for the first time in Tarantino’s “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”. :lol:
I think I read about it first maybe 30 years ago in Ed Sanders (from The Fugs) book about The Family :). Way I heard it from TG was that the song originally was called Cease to Exist but Brian Wilson changes the title to a less doomy Cease to Resist.

You know Charles also auditioned to be in The Monkees?
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kuhliloach wrote:
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-31 cents in the Master Tuning within Preferences is my estimate
That's my estimate too.

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Just remember changing the master tuning does not effect VST's....

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MrFigg wrote:
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You know Charles also auditioned to be in The Monkees?
This, I did know. That guy certainly was a nut job.
Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
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Just remember changing the master tuning does not effect VST's....
I was just about to post this, but you beat me to it. :D :lol:
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diminished wrote:
06 Dec 2019
Change the global tuning.

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and the follow-up:

That guy is full of himself.
Please stop trolling.

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pummelfee wrote:
06 Dec 2019
he wants every track also in 432 Hz, because his customers are asking for this.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I can't imagine a barrage of complaint emails from clients saying "This isn't tuned to 432".

Reading up the history of pitch standardization is quite interesting though, since A440 is only relatively recent. Around the time of German composer Handel, it's been suggested that concert pitch was as low as 409, and the Baroque period was around 415.

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06 Dec 2019

Have you created any out of tunes lately?

Or

Have you created any autotunes lately?

Just pitching the concept

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bitley wrote:
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Have you created any out of tunes lately?
Are you referring to me ?

Because as much as I am embarrassed to say this, but yes I have actually done some 432 stuff lately, as well as some 'binaural beats'. That's not to say I believe all the new-age bollocks around it, but the platform I'm contributing to does lend itself to such aural quackery :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I did a Binaural Beats track to see what would happen and to prove to people I can - why people think it is hard or even special I do not know.

While I really have little "faith" in the claims, it is interesting.
I have yet to do anything in 432Hz; no real opposition other than "common sense" but if it amuses people then why not - so long as they don't think I am endorsing their pseudo-science into fact (not that they need my help in that).

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bitley wrote:
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Have you created any out of tunes lately?

Or

Have you created any autotunes lately?

Just pitching the concept
PMSL

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EdGrip wrote:
06 Dec 2019
kuhliloach wrote:
06 Dec 2019
-31 cents in the Master Tuning within Preferences is my estimate
That's my estimate too.
-31 is the nearer and better choice

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Proboscis wrote:
06 Dec 2019
pummelfee wrote:
06 Dec 2019
he wants every track also in 432 Hz, because his customers are asking for this.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I can't imagine a barrage of complaint emails from clients saying "This isn't tuned to 432".

Reading up the history of pitch standardization is quite interesting though, since A440 is only relatively recent. Around the time of German composer Handel, it's been suggested that concert pitch was as low as 409, and the Baroque period was around 415.
432 hz .. .
: ) maybe for this kind of reasons ?

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