Exporting to .wav

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Smiggy
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20 Nov 2019

Hello

Reason files exported to .wav sound a little duller to me than when played from within Reason. I use the default export settings - 44,100Hz, 16 bit, dithered. Should I play around with these settings or is it a mastering issue?

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Loque
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20 Nov 2019

What is your sampling rate in Reason?

You could try a different Mastering plugin with better Dither or export it in high quality and downsample and dither it in another application with better quality.
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Jackjackdaw
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20 Nov 2019

I have noticed this as well if I bounce to a lower sample rate than the project. I started using 48,000 / 24 bit for all my projects and samples , bounces and had no problems since.

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Smiggy
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20 Nov 2019

Thanks both.

Loque - sampling rate is 44,100. Should that be increased?

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Smiggy wrote:
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Thanks both.

Loque - sampling rate is 44,100. Should that be increased?
Thats pretty strange than. It should sound the same, at least without dithering.
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20 Nov 2019

What program are you using to play the exported files? It's possible that it has its own volume control, and isn't playing at the full level.

Try starting a new Reason project and importing the exported wave into it, and playing from there. (Or look for a volume control in your player software.)

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ScuzzyEye wrote:
20 Nov 2019
What program are you using to play the exported files? It's possible that it has its own volume control, and isn't playing at the full level.

Try starting a new Reason project and importing the exported wave into it, and playing from there. (Or look for a volume control in your player software.)
I second this advice. I've used 44.1 kHz forever with absolutely no problems with sound quality. In the past when ever folks mention an export not sounding like the original, it's one of two things. Either they're exporting at a lower sample rate and one or more instruments don't sound the same at different sample rates (not Reason's fault), or they are listening to playback in a way that causes the problem (thus ScuzzyEye's suggestion above). Good luck, it's probably a simple fix either way. :)
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20 Nov 2019

I use 48 kHz in Reason and export WAVs with 48 kHz with no problems at all.
May be your problem is in your player (as aready suggested).

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20 Nov 2019

Smiggy wrote:
20 Nov 2019
Hello

Reason files exported to .wav sound a little duller to me than when played from within Reason. I use the default export settings - 44,100Hz, 16 bit, dithered. Should I play around with these settings or is it a mastering issue?
The reason why it sounds duller is because your media player is set to a lower volume. Set volume on both the media player and reason to the same lvl and you will hear no difference

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Smiggy wrote:
20 Nov 2019
Hello

Reason files exported to .wav sound a little duller to me than when played from within Reason. I use the default export settings - 44,100Hz, 16 bit, dithered. Should I play around with these settings or is it a mastering issue?
Just wondering: why do you dither and render at 16? I literally see no reason for doing any of that unless you are rendering a master that will be on an audio CD.

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21 Nov 2019

Thanks all. Suggestions will be followed up.

Philip - Just wondering: why do you dither and render at 16? - just accepting the default settings.

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Smiggy wrote:
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Thanks all. Suggestions will be followed up.

Philip - Just wondering: why do you dither and render at 16? - just accepting the default settings.
Don't. Go 24 bit and never look back, Smiggy.

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PhillipOrdonez wrote:
20 Nov 2019
Smiggy wrote:
20 Nov 2019
Hello

Reason files exported to .wav sound a little duller to me than when played from within Reason. I use the default export settings - 44,100Hz, 16 bit, dithered. Should I play around with these settings or is it a mastering issue?
Just wondering: why do you dither and render at 16? I literally see no reason for doing any of that unless you are rendering a master that will be on an audio CD.
I render ALL masters at 16 bit because to date I've never needed more than 96 dB dynamic range on final masters.
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