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Re: Reason 11.1
Posted: 28 Oct 2019
by PhillipOrdonez
Loque wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019
PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019
No Loque, I've only tried this in live 10 with the reason rack plugin (RPP)
Maybe i was no clear enough, can you repeat this test in Reason only?
Here it is, maximum zoom level in reason:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ml3y9c29rcjpj ... 3.png?dl=0
Re: Reason 11.1
Posted: 28 Oct 2019
by Loque
Ok, thanks. I guess Lookahead was enabled. Than its quite obvious, that there is still something odd.
Re: Reason 11.1
Posted: 28 Oct 2019
by PhillipOrdonez
Loque wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019
Ok, thanks. I guess Lookahead was enabled. Than its quite obvious, that there is still something odd.
Yes, lookahead enabled.
Re: Reason 11.1
Posted: 29 Oct 2019
by MattiasHG
PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019
MattiasHG wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019
You're processing the audio, so there will be audible differences—one of the tracks is running through effects, they're not identical. But the timing/delay should be correct. Otherwise, with 5 Maximizers, there wouldn't be phasing but an audible delay. Try it with Ozone Maximizer or BV512 in FFT EQ mode for example. Especially with Ozone, which adds a TON of latency, it'd be like adding a DDL-1 if it didn't work.
I tried it again using the maximisers (4 units, all with lookahead on). I also tried with not one but two Ozone 9 maximiser vst on another track. Here is how they line up:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4edjaxf0ik9z ... 2.png?dl=0
After a lot of head-scratching I've figured this out! It seems the Maximizer is reporting latency wrong (like, down to 1ms or less). This is actually also present in Reason standalone. In other words, latency reporting is correct but what this device reports is not. We'll see if we can fix this for Maximizer. But overall, Reason Rack Plugin will report correctly to the host.
Re: Reason 11.1
Posted: 29 Oct 2019
by MrFigg
MattiasHG wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019
After a lot of head-scratching I've figured this out! It seems the Maximizer is reporting latency wrong (like, down to 1ms or less). This is actually also present in Reason standalone. In other words, latency reporting is correct but what this device reports is not. We'll see if we can fix this for Maximizer. But overall, Reason Rack Plugin will report correctly to the host.
Hej Mattias. I’m guessing you’ve probably read the thread regarding Balance/ Ignition keys. I KNOW this isn’t a support centre but there’s a lot of guessing and even some concern going on so would you maybe be willing to comment on what’s actually happening so we can get on with our lives?
Re: Reason 11.1
Posted: 29 Oct 2019
by PhillipOrdonez
MattiasHG wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019
After a lot of head-scratching I've figured this out! It seems the Maximizer is reporting latency wrong (like, down to 1ms or less). This is actually also present in Reason standalone. In other words, latency reporting is correct but what this device reports is not. We'll see if we can fix this for Maximizer. But overall, Reason Rack Plugin will report correctly to the host.
Takk for confirming I'm not crazy
I hope you guys figure this out soon, I like using the maximiser as a soft clipping unit on a lot of channels when mixing.
On second thought, this shouldn't be an issue at all, as long as lookahead isn't on though, correct? I cannot test this right now (using maximisers without lookahead on, see if there's any delay at all), but logic tells me it shouldn't, though I would want to be sure.
Re: Reason 11.0.1
Posted: 29 Oct 2019
by Last Alternative
Are we still supposed to wait to get Catalina?
Re: Reason 11.0.1
Posted: 29 Oct 2019
by Biolumin3sc3nt
Until there's an official announcement, I would say wait on it
Re: Reason 11.1
Posted: 30 Oct 2019
by Loque
PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019
MattiasHG wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019
After a lot of head-scratching I've figured this out! It seems the Maximizer is reporting latency wrong (like, down to 1ms or less). This is actually also present in Reason standalone. In other words, latency reporting is correct but what this device reports is not. We'll see if we can fix this for Maximizer. But overall, Reason Rack Plugin will report correctly to the host.
Takk for confirming I'm not crazy
I hope you guys figure this out soon, I like using the maximiser as a soft clipping unit on a lot of channels when mixing.
On second thought, this shouldn't be an issue at all, as long as lookahead isn't on though, correct? I cannot test this right now (using maximisers without lookahead on, see if there's any delay at all), but logic tells me it shouldn't, though I would want to be sure.
Hum...if it is "just" a rounding problem, it is not the only one in the Reason world. IMO Reasonstudios should not fix the problem, iZotope should fix it - but i guess, they wont do it. Once i wrote to Softube, because FET does not report lookahead at all, the answer was so disappointing, that i only have bad words left for Softube and will never buy software from them again.
Re: Reason 11.0.1
Posted: 30 Oct 2019
by MattiasHG
Yes. We're working on an update that is fully compatible. We can't guarantee full compatibility with the currently available versions.
Re: Reason 11.1
Posted: 30 Oct 2019
by MattiasHG
PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019
Takk for confirming I'm not crazy
I hope you guys figure this out soon, I like using the maximiser as a soft clipping unit on a lot of channels when mixing.
On second thought, this shouldn't be an issue at all, as long as lookahead isn't on though, correct? I cannot test this right now (using maximisers without lookahead on, see if there's any delay at all), but logic tells me it shouldn't, though I would want to be sure.
Correct, shouldn't be an issue if lookahead isn't on.
Re: Reason 11.1
Posted: 30 Oct 2019
by PhillipOrdonez
MattiasHG wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019
PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019
Takk for confirming I'm not crazy
I hope you guys figure this out soon, I like using the maximiser as a soft clipping unit on a lot of channels when mixing.
On second thought, this shouldn't be an issue at all, as long as lookahead isn't on though, correct? I cannot test this right now (using maximisers without lookahead on, see if there's any delay at all), but logic tells me it shouldn't, though I would want to be sure.
Correct, shouldn't be an issue if lookahead isn't on.
Thank you!
Re: Reason 11.0.1
Posted: 24 Jan 2020
by Last Alternative
Any update on the fix? Is Reason okay with Catalina now?
Re: Reason 11.0.1
Posted: 24 Jan 2020
by EnochLight
Last Alternative wrote: ↑24 Jan 2020
Any update on the fix? Is Reason okay with Catalina now?
Yes. Since a couple of months ago:
https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us ... -statement
I hope you guys figure this out soon, I like using the maximiser as a soft clipping unit on a lot of channels when mixing.
