Meet the Propellerheads - we "need" a new one :)

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antic604

22 May 2019

I guess it's about time we get a new version of this video:



Things have picked up since 9 was released, the company apparently has woken up from their sleep and lots of balls are rolling at the moment with exciting things potentially on the horizon. So I'd really love to see the team, what they're working on (in very, very general terms obviously), what's the atmosphere like, perhaps a new boss saying few words, etc.

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22 May 2019

@06:27 dude is readin a comment on the forum with user requests

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Can you see those devices in the first prototype version? It was before Reason and become ReBirth and it already had cables...
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And they cut off the feature...
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22 May 2019

They removed the cables from Rebirth because computers at the time couldn't handle the added complexity, according to the video (at least how I understood Ernst's comments).

Obviously they don't have any hatred of cables at PH headquarters.

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botnotbot wrote:
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They removed the cables from Rebirth because computers at the time couldn't handle the added complexity, according to the video (at least how I understood Ernst's comments).

Obviously they don't have any hatred of cables at PH headquarters.
Yea, i am sure at that time my computer couldnt handle the cables...
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Loque wrote:
22 May 2019
Can you see those devices in the first prototype version? It was before Reason and become ReBirth and it already had cables...
2019-05-22 13_01_34-Meet the Propellerheads - YouTube.jpg



And they cut off the feature...
2019-05-22 13_03_45-Meet the Propellerheads - YouTube.jpg
Dude!? Wait...!? Does that mean, there could have been ReBirth in Reason all the time? :shock:
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Loque wrote:
22 May 2019

Dude!? Wait...!? Does that mean, there could have been ReBirth in Reason all the time? :shock:
The PC version of Reason had that rebirth input machine. I suspect Rebirth had quite a bit of x86 assembly in it to get it to run fast enough on those sweet 60Mhz pentiums. Reason launched with both x86 and powerpc code.

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22 May 2019

Loque wrote:
22 May 2019
Loque wrote:
22 May 2019
Can you see those devices in the first prototype version? It was before Reason and become ReBirth and it already had cables...
2019-05-22 13_01_34-Meet the Propellerheads - YouTube.jpg



And they cut off the feature...
2019-05-22 13_03_45-Meet the Propellerheads - YouTube.jpg
Dude!? Wait...!? Does that mean, there could have been ReBirth in Reason all the time? :shock:
Right? One of the 303's as an RE, with full cv routings, minus the clunky step sequencer, would be fantastic!
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22 May 2019

Loque wrote:
22 May 2019
Dude!? Wait...!? Does that mean, there could have been ReBirth in Reason all the time? :shock:
Only joining the Reason family in late 2017 I was CONVINCED that at some point in time Rebirth was a part of Reason, until Roland interfered? I really wish Props made some arrangement with them and brought it back, even as a paid RE. I'd spend EUR99 in a heart beat!

I mean if there are products on the market like ABL3 or Phoscyon (and many other), then surely there's some legal way to get this done?

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antic604 wrote:
22 May 2019
Loque wrote:
22 May 2019
Dude!? Wait...!? Does that mean, there could have been ReBirth in Reason all the time? :shock:
Only joining the Reason family in late 2017 I was CONVINCED that at some point in time Rebirth was a part of Reason, until Roland interfered? I really wish Props made some arrangement with them and brought it back, even as a paid RE. I'd spend EUR99 in a heart beat!

I mean if there are products on the market like ABL3 or Phoscyon (and many other), then surely there's some legal way to get this done?
Today i have ABL3. But that extra PCF filter sounded great...
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antic604 wrote:
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Only joining the Reason family in late 2017 I was CONVINCED that at some point in time Rebirth was a part of Reason, until Roland interfered?
No, it was never a part of Reason ever - except in the sense that you could use the ReBirth Input Machine to ReWire an instance into Reason during those early years. Once 32-bit support was dropped, that stopped (without some workarounds). And then Propellerhead deprecated the product - it had gone through its run and they discontinued it, giving it away for free through the ReBirth Museum website.
antic604 wrote:
22 May 2019
I really wish Props made some arrangement with them and brought it back, even as a paid RE. I'd spend EUR99 in a heart beat!

I mean if there are products on the market like ABL3 or Phoscyon (and many other), then surely there's some legal way to get this done?
Roland gave Props a polite freebie pass when they first released ReBirth back in the late 90's. Back then, Roland was still 100% hardware and to them the 808, 909, and 303 were dead products they hadn't even considered resurrecting. I think the story went somewhere along the line, Roland basically told Props "cool" via fax or some shit (I totally can't remember how the story went). :lol:

Fast forward to now, and Roland is clearly 100% behind their own plugins and keeping their proprietary shit close to the chest (see: Roland Cloud). I would wager that it is virtually impossible for Props to negotiate some sort of licensing agreement at this point. And even if it was, would everyone really want Props to shift focus from Reason back to ReBirth, just to port it into Reason or to RE? :shock: :o :?
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Seem to remember getting ReBirth to work on 64bit Windows but the ReBirth Input Machine only worked with 32bit so that was that.
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22 May 2019

EnochLight wrote:
22 May 2019
antic604 wrote:
22 May 2019
Only joining the Reason family in late 2017 I was CONVINCED that at some point in time Rebirth was a part of Reason, until Roland interfered?
No, it was never a part of Reason ever - except in the sense that you could use the ReBirth Input Machine to ReWire an instance into Reason during those early years. Once 32-bit support was dropped, that stopped (without some workarounds). And then Propellerhead deprecated the product - it had gone through its run and they discontinued it, giving it away for free through the ReBirth Museum website.
antic604 wrote:
22 May 2019
I really wish Props made some arrangement with them and brought it back, even as a paid RE. I'd spend EUR99 in a heart beat!

I mean if there are products on the market like ABL3 or Phoscyon (and many other), then surely there's some legal way to get this done?
Roland gave Props a polite freebie pass when they first released ReBirth back in the late 90's. Back then, Roland was still 100% hardware and to them the 808, 909, and 303 were dead products they hadn't even considered resurrecting. I think the story went somewhere along the line, Roland basically told Props "cool" via fax or some shit (I totally can't remember how the story went). :lol:

Fast forward to now, and Roland is clearly 100% behind their own plugins and keeping their proprietary shit close to the chest (see: Roland Cloud). I would wager that it is virtually impossible for Props to negotiate some sort of licensing agreement at this point. And even if it was, would everyone really want Props to shift focus from Reason back to ReBirth, just to port it into Reason or to RE? :shock: :o :?
the solution for all this is to add vst3 support or au support so we can use the roland cloud in reason

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flightONE wrote:
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the solution for all this is to add vst3 support or au support so we can use the roland cloud in reason
I already do use Roland Cloud with Reason. At least on Windows, it works great. :)
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