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Jagwah
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08 Oct 2018

Imagine I had two million dollars.

I get on a plane and head for Sweden, then I locate Propellerhead Secret Headquarters.

I arrive and announce I am a Reason user and maybe they have seen me on the forums.

All goes swimmingly and I am invited to a tour of the offices.

I'm hoping this is my chance to tell them how to run their company, but nope, it's just a tour.

Then I remember my two million dollar bank account.

So I request and set up a meeting with Ernst the big boss.

He agrees and we sit down, and then I explain my proposition:

I will give you (Propellerhead) one million dollars, on the condition that video support is implemented in Reason by version 12.

I also want to be a part of the team creating the feature.


What do you think his response would be?!?!?!?!? :)

and / or

If you had the same two million dollars and wanted to do something with Reason, what would your proposition be?

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MrFigg
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08 Oct 2018

1. ”When hell freezes over. “

2. More stickers
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08 Oct 2018

If you had the same two million dollars and wanted to do something with Reason
I throw Reason out of the window, and buy it in hardware
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Jagwah
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08 Oct 2018

MrFigg wrote:
08 Oct 2018
1. ”When hell freezes over. “

2. More stickers

Surely he wouldn't be so mad lol :)

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08 Oct 2018

Jagwah wrote:
08 Oct 2018
MrFigg wrote:
08 Oct 2018
1. ”When hell freezes over. “

2. More stickers

Surely he wouldn't be so mad lol :)
Isn’t that just the standard answer? (VST scenario) :)
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MannequinRaces
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08 Oct 2018

My proposition would be to have Propellerhead hire five programmers at $100k per year for four years to accelerate the core product Reason.

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Their earnings last year was about 2.5 million USD. They can hire more programmers if they want...
MannequinRaces wrote:My proposition would be to have Propellerhead hire five programmers at $100k per year for four years to accelerate the core product Reason.
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08 Oct 2018

Boombastix wrote:
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Their earnings last year was about 2.5 million USD. They can hire more programmers if they want...
MannequinRaces wrote:My proposition would be to have Propellerhead hire five programmers at $100k per year for four years to accelerate the core product Reason.
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Where’d you get that info from? Is that net or gross profit, lol? Either way I don’t think more programmers would hurt. :)

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Net. But they had a strike of loss years before that. Looks like VST brought back profits. Though their board has an average age around 60. They probably should consider more input from users and someone slightly younger too.
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Boombastix wrote:
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Their earnings last year was about 2.5 million USD. They can hire more programmers if they want... Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk
Where’d you get that info from? Is that net or gross profit, lol? Either way I don’t think more programmers would hurt. :)
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Jagwah
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MannequinRaces wrote:
08 Oct 2018
My proposition would be to have Propellerhead hire five programmers at $100k per year for four years to accelerate the core product Reason.
Nice I definitely wouldn't mind that one.

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Jagwah
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09 Oct 2018

sdst wrote:
08 Oct 2018
If you had the same two million dollars and wanted to do something with Reason
I throw Reason out of the window, and buy it in hardware
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nom nom nom

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09 Oct 2018

Hate to be “that guy”, but if I had a net of $2 million USD, I most certainly wouldn’t give half of my net worth away on a feature request. :shock: :o Invest it properly!







...and then offer $1 million USD for said feature request once my nest egg grew to be worth 100 times my original $2 million. ;) :lol:
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Arrant
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Well you're surely dreaming if you think you can hire a good developer in Scandinavia for $100k a year :lol:

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09 Oct 2018

What do you think his response would be?!?!?!?!? :)
gtfo!

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Arrant wrote:
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Well you're surely dreaming if you think you can hire a good developer in Scandinavia for $100k a year :lol:
Developer or a coder? As I'm all here for developing the main-scetching for stuff for FREE!

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Arrant wrote:
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Well you're surely dreaming if you think you can hire a good developer in Scandinavia for $100k a year :lol:
What's the going rate these days? I wasn't sure what it would take to hire a decent developer and pay them well to retain them for a couple years. :)

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MannequinRaces wrote:
09 Oct 2018
Arrant wrote:
09 Oct 2018
Well you're surely dreaming if you think you can hire a good developer in Scandinavia for $100k a year :lol:
What's the going rate these days? I wasn't sure what it would take to hire a decent developer and pay them well to retain them for a couple years. :)
If you want to hire them as consultants then probably 250 to 300k.
If employed, 100k is a good salary but as an employer you aldo need to pay tax, social costs, office space etc bringing the cost up to around 150-180k even then.

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10 Oct 2018

MrFigg wrote:
08 Oct 2018
1. ”When hell freezes over. “

2. More stickers
I think video support will come. I think 60% of requested features will come but just not quickly enough. Video Support? Reason 12 or 13.
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mcatalao
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10 Oct 2018

I'd stick to my 2Mil and go to https://vidplayvst.com/index.htm

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I'd stick to my 2Mil and go to https://vidplayvst.com/index.htm

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10 Oct 2018

Good question. I've considered this myself in the past. I imagined coming into a large sum of money, in the order of quite a lot of millions, and making a sizable investment into Propellerhead. My idea was that the funds be used to contract extra staff to work on the RE SDK. The idea being to speed up development of the platform. Unfortunately I fear the opportunity for such an investment may have passed where Rack Extensions are concerned.

Not so sure what I'd like to invest in now. I guess more development staff so development of Reason can be accelerated in general. Beyond that I guess it would be helping with additional resources to work on specific feature requests wherever viable. I'd like to see Reason have the sort of audio file mapping that Ableton Live or Magix Acid has so audio can be warped to tempo. But now we're just getting into specific feature requests. I'd like to see 'Reason Compact' actually become Reason Compact. That would be nice.

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10 Oct 2018

Sometimes, when SW code gets old it has become spaghetti code and full of obsolete code made by coders who are no longer with the company. Companies simply have to do a complete rewrite so they can move forward. Swedes often know about the company Facit and it instills fear of becoming obsolete. I at least hope we get proper VST function soon including Midi out..


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Arrant wrote:
09 Oct 2018
Well you're surely dreaming if you think you can hire a good developer in Scandinavia for $100k a year :lol:
Arrant wrote:
10 Oct 2018
If you want to hire them as consultants then probably 250 to 300k.
If employed, 100k is a good salary but as an employer you aldo need to pay tax, social costs, office space etc bringing the cost up to around 150-180k even then.
:o :shock: :?

Are you Swedish and in the industry? I am not sure what the difference is between software programmer, software developer, and software engineer. The average starting pay for a programmer in the US is around $35-000-$55,000 USD, and we have some of the highest costs of living in the entire freaking world!

For programmers, Ubisoft, Sony Mobile, and Stockholm University average $32,000 USD/year to $51,000 USD/year according to Glassdoor:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/swed ... KO7,17.htm
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MannequinRaces
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10 Oct 2018

Yeah I was thinking $100k would have been a competitive wage.

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Master of Science engineers in Sweden are actually paid some of the lowest comparable wages in the Western world.
MannequinRaces wrote:Yeah I was thinking $100k would have been a competitive wage.
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